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The Ammunition Bubble: Substitute 12 guage for .22?
Gun Watch ^ | 8 June, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/09/2014 6:38:45 AM PDT by marktwain

The two boxes of ammunition cost about the same on today's market


The price of 12 gauge hunting ammunition has dropped back to near pre- ammunition bubble levels.    Wal-mart had 100 rounds of birdshot loads priced at $19.97 a couple  of days ago.   That is 20 cents per round, or $5 per box of 25.  Before the Barack Obama ammunition bubble, the ordinary price was a little lower, perhaps $4.50, with sales just before dove season as low as $3.00.

.22 rimfire ammunition, particularly .22 long rifle (LR) ammunition prices are at an all time high.  This is a classic bubble, and it will end, but no one knows exactly when.

.22 LR is currently available for about 10 cents a round.  So, which is a better deal, .22 LR at 10 cents a cartridge, or 12 gauge at 20 cents?    Both cartridges have their unique uses, advantages, and disadvantages.    Next to .22 rimfire, 12 gauge may be the next most commonly chambered cartridge in the country.   Most gun owners own a shotgun of some kind.  Nearly every gun writer has noted that a shotgun is one of the most versatile and useful firearms ever made.  Most gun owners have a 12 gauge, because it is the most common and versatile of  the shotgun gauges.  Because of the economics of mass manufacture, it is also the cheapest shotgun ammunition.

For many people, it makes more sense to buy 12 gauge at 20 cents a round than .22 ammunition at 10 cents a round.   Many of the uses of the two firearms overlap.   The raw power of an ordinary 12 gauge load is equivalent to a dozen .22 LR cartridges.

Both are excellent choices for hunting small game.  In fact, the shotgun is the more reliable gun for putting meat on the table.   It is designed for taking birds on the fly and rabbits on the run.  It takes less skill on the part of the hunter to take game with a shotgun than it does with a .22 LR.   For hunting, one 12 gauge cartridge is likely as or more productive than two .22 LR cartridges.

Neither 12 gauge with bird shot or .22 LR are the first choice for self defense.   Both are commonly used, and used effectively, because any gun is better than no gun in a self defense scenario.   Here, again, the 12 gauge has the edge.  It has greater intimidation value, due to the size of the hole in the end of the barrel(s).  It has massive destructive power at close range, under five yards, where most self defense situations occur.    There are a number of ways that birdshot loads can be converted to expedient slug loads in an emergency.   They are effective to 25 yards and more, and make the birdshot loads into effective big game loads at short ranges.

That brings us to big game.  Neither 12 gauge birdshot loads or .22 LR are the optimum choice for hunting big game.   Still, as with self defense, both have been used extensively and successfully.   The wax and cut expedient loads for shotguns have been used to poach big game for decades.   The use has been prevalent enough to rate a legal ban on their use in hunting in some states.  The ban on these loads in Wisconsin lead me to discover what they were and how they worked 45 years ago.   I do not recommend them except for emergency use.  Even without the expedient slug loads, bird shot can down big game at ranges under 5 yards.  My father once harvested a deer with a shot from a shotgun and birdshot  at 4 yards distance.    The shot to the head was an instant and humane death.   I own a .22 LR that my father acquired during the depression.   It was often loaned to neighbors for subsistence deer hunting; a "village gun" system where the owner of the gun received a share of the meat.   My father said that it had been used to harvest over 200 deer.

While I do not advocate breaking the law, in a survival situation, eating takes priority over the hunting regulations.

In terms of barter, or as a store of value, 12 gauge and .22 LR both have excellent barter potential, both store for decades without noticeable degradation.

.22 LR prices will eventually return to reasonable levels.  The raw materials for one 12 gauge load could be used to make 10 or 12 .22 LR cartridges, indicating that it is not raw material prices that are driving the .22 LR bubble.   While the bubble is still expanding, people should consider the 12 gauge as a substitute for the .22 LR round.   Two .22 LR cartridges for a 12 gauge cartridge is a pretty good trade.


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KEYWORDS: 22; ammunition; banglist; bubble
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

If an MRAP heads up my drive, I’m not staying to discuss the situation.

I’m set up for criminals and animal control, not an insurrection.

I’d love a 50 cal but a .308 is good for 500 yards.


41 posted on 06/10/2014 1:45:44 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: dangerdoc

Between .50 and .308 is personal taste, and I would never suggest otherwise.

However, the MRAP thing is now so much at the local police level that it has become irrational. They might decide to smash someone’s home down at 3am because of an unpaid parking ticket by a “known gun owner”.

Still, I agree, that bugging out, *if* that is an option, is the best one. But in the time being, if a 21 foot long, 22 ton vehicle attempts to drive over a relatively small trench covered with plywood, it might provide a respectable length of time to gather up your cloak and go.


42 posted on 06/10/2014 3:51:19 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Fellow Traveler

“Be careful. 45 Colt is not the same diameter as 45-70. One is. 451 the other is .458”

Thanks for that tip! I would have realized it before buying anything, but it’s good that you point it out.

I think, given that, that I’ll stick with .44 magnum for the handgun round, and 45/70 for the high-powered rifle. That way there’s no chance of loading the wrong bullet.

Have a good one!


43 posted on 06/11/2014 5:56:36 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Tijeras_Slim; RedMDer; fireman15; marktwain

Thanks for all the replies guys. I appreciate all the information. I definitely want to try the cut and wax load


44 posted on 06/11/2014 11:38:29 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: Rannug; All

There are really two techniques there.

One is the “cut” improvisation, where the shell is cut so that the entire front end of the shot cartridge goes out the end of the bore.

Second is the “wax” improvisation where shot is mixed with molten wax and the shot cup filled with the mixture, which is then allowed to harden.

I believe the “wax” method to be superior, but it takes a little more effort. It has the advantage that the loads can be made to feed and eject just like any other shotgun load. In the “cut” method, the cartridges become much more fragile.


45 posted on 06/11/2014 6:18:11 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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