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Lois Lerner's worst nightmare: Watch what happens when multiple top VA officials take the 5th.
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Posted on 05/22/2014 12:37:09 PM PDT by ken5050

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To: ken5050

For far too many people, their view of government is positive as long as the check arrives on time each month.

We’re in a real life version of “Atlas Shrugged”.

If anyone knows where Galt’s Gulch is, please freepmail me.


41 posted on 05/22/2014 1:38:43 PM PDT by randita
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To: Bullish

Obama’s pushing to be able to enlist invaders in exchange for citizenship. Also consider the number of military jobs being given to private contractors. Why would Obama care what US citizens in the military think if he doesn’t need them in the military?


42 posted on 05/22/2014 1:39:28 PM PDT by grania
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To: jrg

I agree with you, but the mountain of corruption and unaccountability around this regime is becoming a game changer. They may be surprised at the coming backlash. The American people can only take so much of this before the sleeping giant awakens.... I’d sure hate to be connected to this regime when it does.

I’m not going to just throw my hands up and say all is lost because of these communist priks.


43 posted on 05/22/2014 1:42:19 PM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: ken5050

Government is the enemy of honest, principled people, and the enemy has declared all out war.


44 posted on 05/22/2014 1:44:35 PM PDT by pallis
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To: ken5050

It’s my observation that the average citizen is more aware of the VA scandal than the IRS scandal, or they see the first as important and grin maniacally about the second.

Another difference is that Lerner should not be allowed to take the Fifth because of her assertion of innocence before she tried to take it. This won’t be as important, though, because the emotional perception is 100% of the outcome, not anything as sophisticated as law.

I do hope it turns on her, but it’s a different crowd that is concerned about the VA. They could rejoice in the takedown of the VA administrators and not give a fig about Lerner.


45 posted on 05/22/2014 1:44:59 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: ken5050

how do we know they’ll all plead the 5th?


46 posted on 05/22/2014 1:49:45 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: ken5050

If the GOP congress had a working set, they could hand over each of the uncooperative VA officials to the state authorities of the states wherein the deaths occurred, to face state charges of negligent homicide, as Judge Pirro hinted in her most excellent opening rant.


47 posted on 05/22/2014 1:56:37 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: ken5050

The population has been dumbed down and dumped into dependency over the last 50 years. Although the LIVs may not vote in off year elections, they usually will show up for the presidential elections. As long as they can watch reality TV, play video games and order pizza with their EBTs, voting patterns will not substantially change.
The LIVs must experience pain and make a direct connection to the actual source of the problem- fascist/Marxist politicians. Unfortunately, it appears that only a civil war or societal collapse will awaken the LIVs. But if there is some sort of collapse, you can be sure that the LIVs will feel it first and the results will not be pretty.

In the end, you can always count on the elites to employ a divide and conquer strategy by demonizing the productive class, conservatives, Christians, veterans, and start gender and race wars as a way to keep opponents neutralized.


48 posted on 05/22/2014 1:58:15 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: ken5050

As much as I wish you were right, I think you are way off.

It might as well be done in a vacuum. The MSM will be in full spin mode to minimize both the coverage and any potential damage. If they can’t, then fully half or more if the electorate could not care less and won’t pay attention anyway. The only folks who will pay attention are political junkies and the 25% of the GOP who identify with/as tea party or conservative.

Not a dang thing will happen to anyone. I hope I’m wrong.


49 posted on 05/22/2014 3:01:13 PM PDT by jaydee770
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To: tennmountainman

“The only way the low information democrat voter would pay attention
is if their monthly gov check quit coming.”

That is indeed the ultimate trump card the communists have. As long as the majority of voters prefer dependence of either themselves or their lessers, there is simply nothing that can be done until the whole house of cards collapses. That is not pessimism or defeatism, it is a realistic recognition of human nature in a fallen world.


50 posted on 05/22/2014 3:18:42 PM PDT by crusher (GREEN: Globaloney for the Gullible)
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To: dead

Because the detestation of the VA administration is bipartisan..no Dem is going to defend these clowns..


51 posted on 05/22/2014 3:45:51 PM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: spacejunkie2001
They kept secret lists,a and filed false reports that they were meeting the requirements to get the vets appointments. They got bonus for their management "skills"..And, oh yeah..vets DIED...

They'll ALL take the 5th..

52 posted on 05/22/2014 3:47:45 PM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Rebelbase

If you get 25% of independent voters, and 5% of Dem voters, to realize how bad it is...we run the table big time this November..


53 posted on 05/22/2014 3:49:07 PM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: ken5050

I love the announcement today that the director of the Phoenix Veterans Affairs Health Care System Sharon Helman was wrongly paid her over $9,000 “bonus” by “due to an administrative error.”. Helman should be indicted and arrested for fraud.


54 posted on 05/22/2014 3:53:49 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ

She will be..and when they haul her into the House committee, she’ll take the 5th...


55 posted on 05/22/2014 3:55:30 PM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Rebelbase

LIV response when you convince them there is a VA scandal:

“How do you know President Obama didn’t try to do something? On top of that, he can’t be responsible for every thing that happens. That’s why he has aides and cabinet secretaries. Besides, if Bush hadn’t taken us to war based on a lie, there wouldn’t be 2 million more veterans today. Nobody could have handled that.”

There is no way they will ever be convinced that obama has ever done anything wrong. I once pointed out to an LIV, who thinks he’s very smart by the way, some of obama’s stupid statements. His response was “He didn’t mean it.”


56 posted on 05/22/2014 4:02:09 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: woodbutcher1963

Did you notice how many threads and posts there were on HERE last night about American Idol?


57 posted on 05/22/2014 4:03:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: grania

He has his 250,000 strong civilian force that’s just as powerful as the army. They’re made up of federal agents and local and state cops.


58 posted on 05/22/2014 4:05:42 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: ken5050

I saw a video of the head of AT&T “answering” Arlen Specter on whether or not he gave private phone call info to the feds. At least ten times he said, with a smirk, “We follow the law.” I can see these VA guys doing the same thing but saying “We did what we were told to do but have been ordered under threat of prosecution not to divulge who issued the orders.”

And that’s what I want to know. Who came up with the idea of cooking the books. It had to come from up on the mountain because every hospital did the exact same thing.


59 posted on 05/22/2014 4:10:42 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: ken5050

One party rule ping.


60 posted on 05/22/2014 4:10:46 PM PDT by alrea (So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing. T. S. Eliot)
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