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Posted on 05/12/2014 3:30:28 PM PDT by Sam Troy
I've engaged with the evidence and found it wanting.
Explosive: Vogt Speaks; Obama ID Fraud
Greatest Crime In History; Pelosi Will Hang
http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/05/explosive-vogt-speaks-obama-id-fraud.html
The thing the regime would fear more than Fuddy dying is if Fuddy didn’t die and she lived in a claim of death that didn’t “stick” - leaving a Fuddy who could be found by somebody like Arpaio.
The one who would gain from a dangerous, elaborate plan.... is Fuddy, because she could assure the regime that she would either end up really dead, or alive in a circumstance where everybody would say it was too dangerous for anybody to be willing to try it. And that is the only arrangement the regime would accept in order to let her live, IMHO.
And everybody in this story either loved or depended on Fuddy and/or the HDOH, or could be suitably threatened by the Obama regime itself. They are family. They would want to help her. The guy who became interim DOH Director was NOT Yamamoto; it was Gary Gill, the guy in charge of the State Laboratory, which would be called on to conduct autopsy lab work. The person who became the permanent HDOH Director was Linda Rosen, the gal in charge of the Emergency Medical System for the HDOH - a person who almost surely worked closely with Fuddy’s brother-in-law, EMT Scotty Schafer, and his buddies who all considered Fuddy “family” (ohana). So Fuddy’s buddies and family controlled the entities involved in this rescue and the documentation for this rescue.
I don’t believe it was an accident that the Obamas arrived in Hawaii the day before Fuddy’s funeral (IIRC) or that Michelle Obama suddenly decided to stay behind on Maui - requiring massive Maui Police Department “security” - for an indefinite period of time with VALERIE “our enemies will pay” Jarrett and Mrs. Eric “I only protect my friends” Holder while the Maui County Police Chief - acting coroner - was figuring out what to say about Fuddy’s “cause of death”.
Nor do I believe it was coincidence that as soon as he announced that Fuddy died of cardiac arrhythmia, on that same day, it was disclosed that Michelle Obama would be returning back to DC, leaving the Maui Co Police Dept and the people of Maui (who were complaining) back in peace. Mission accomplished.
In the end, the evidence is what counts. But there are good reasons for something EXACTLY like this to be done, when you consider what risks would be acceptable to the regime and what risks would be acceptable to Fuddy and her friends.
And contrary to my first thoughts on this, I now do suspect that the regime was involved with this, after seeing what’s revealed in some of these official records and what’s happened throughout the course of the requests and responses.
I’m quitting this subject before I say anything more that I might have reason to regret. While the resident attack-dog has me in his sights, and I’m probably being set up, I’ll take my bat and go home.
I suggest you do the same. You’ve told your story just as I have, and no one wants to know. From now on, all you will get is more insults. Don’t let them make you a whipping-post. If Fuddy was a victim, it will be because she was implicated and knew to much.
If she wasn’t implicated, then it was simply an accident.
Who are the divers? Secret Service, SEALS, NOAA commandos (it seems every agency has them now)?
So you don’t see any problems, but your answers to all the questions I asked is “I don’t know”? Is that about right?
You don’t see a person in black pants underwater, wearing white goggles and a yellow scuba mask? That isn’t clear enough for you to see that?
I didn't see any white goggles or a yellow scuba mask. I see blurry pictures, motion frozen with lighting distorted by water.
OK. Thank you for responding.
If you can’t see anything you can’t see anything. Sorry for implying there’s something wrong if you can’t really tell what you’re seeing. The images aren’t as clear as I would like them to be, and the truest context could be seen if I had permission to post the non-pixelated video. ABC doesn’t want you to see that though.
There are a lot of discrepancies in the records/stories, but I realize you haven’t been able to see the proof of that because I’m still waiting on records.
Hold tight, please.
How can you say if it’s prone to failure, if it’s never been tried before?
How many aircraft do you think were on scene when this crash occurred? How many people were available to help in case there were any problems? What do you think? What do you think the records will end up suggesting?
Have you ever swum in the ocean?
You haven't been paying attention. Fuddy isn't a victim here, she was scooped up in an elaborate plot and living the life of luxury with a new identity because she was a team player in the Obama regime, and the birther's were getting a little too close to the truth. This WHOLE thing was an elaborate plot designed to make it look like Fuddy died. Boy, the Obama regime was close to getting away with it too. Unfortunately for them, Butterdezillion here wasn't sleeping at the switch. Oh now, she saw right through it and noticed something suspicious in the GMA video. And here we are.
I don’t know who they are. I just know there are extra people there, and if this crash wasn’t planned they shouldn’t have been there in the minutes immediately following the crash.
And I believe that we deserve some answers - especially after ABC used this footage to poke fun at “the birthers”.
Yes.
In all fairness, I didn't see any of that either. If you can't show convincing images, it's hard to convince anybody. I think you might have been better off without any of the stills from the video. All I could see was her black slacks and the sole of her shoe. That doesn't mean there might not have been foul play. It just means your images weren't clear enough to convince.
Something might have been 'arranged' just not the way you see it. Imo if there was foul play, each and every person on that aircraft was a potential tragedy. The people who have so much at stake, wouldn't just single out their victim, swatting nine flies to silence one, would be more their MO.
The fact/story that the engine was lifted out of the water a week before the aircraft was salvaged, (is that true?) smells somewhat. I don't think there's anything to be gained by discussing it further on FR. You appear to be, like myself, enjoying very limited support here.
Ok, well, I guess I have no choice. :)
My answers to your questions to me have no bearing on my understanding your theory, they would be my opinion rather than an elucidation of your theory, which is what I am seeking to understand.
How witty you are.
What about the funeral? Who/what was in the casket?
OK, I’m outa here. When you are being set up butter, it’s a good idea to take their toys away. They are playing with you, and you continue to respond. You give them sport. You are being baited. Turn your back. Walk away.
Pinging.
Explosive: Vogt Speaks; Obama ID Fraud
Greatest Crime In History; Pelosi Will Hang
http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/05/explosive-vogt-speaks-obama-id-fraud.html
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