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RED RIVER RUMBLE? BLM Wants to Seize 90,000 Acres of Texas Ranchers’ Land!
Americas Freedom Fighters ^ | April 11, 2014 | Clark Kent

Posted on 04/13/2014 5:55:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

The Red River is the boundary between Texas and Oklahoma…or is it?

Byers, Texas along the Red River — The BLM stole 140 acres of the Tommy Henderson ranch thirty years ago. They took his land and paid him absolutely nothing. He sued and lost. Now the BLM is using that court case as precedent to do it again. The problem is, the land they want to seize is property that ranchers have a deed for and have paid taxes on for over a hundred years.

The BLM claims that about 90,000 acres (116 miles along the Red River) have never belonged to Texas in the first place. They will seize the land and it will seriously change the boundaries between the two states.

Avulsion versus Accretion

 

Since 1803 when the Louisiana Purchase was completed, there has been a controversy over the boundary between Oklahoma and Texas. The boundary is supposed to be the vegetation line on the south side of the Red River. But the River has moved over time. The problem is the definition of that boundary line- Oklahoma and Texas each use different semantics to define it. And the BLM is finding ways to use the disputed words to give them the ability to seize the land.

According to the BLM, the Red River is always Accretion (gradual accumulation of sediment) to the south, and always Avulsion (rapid formation of a new river channel) to the north. So according to the BLM, the boundary only moves one direction, never in the direction that favors the ranchers. They are looking to re-draw the entire portion of the Red River boundary. That includes 90,000 acres of land along a 116 mile stretch of the river.

“BLM officials believe they have a responsibility to manage land they believe is federal which includes an estimated 90,000 acres along 116 miles of the Red River. If land is found to be public, BLM officials say they have three options: leave the land open, closed, or open with limitations.” January 2014

Public input ignored?

Land that has been in the families of ranchers is to be seized as “public lands” that would be subject to fees or blocked off entirely from rancher’s use. Or in some cases, moving the boundary line over to Oklahoma, where Texas ranchers can lose their rights to the lands that they have owned for more than a century. The BLM had open meetings back in January to “take input” from the public …but they are moving forward with their plan to seize the land anyway. There was likely never any intention of actually listening to the rancher’s stand.

The taking of property from land owners, the stealing of cattle, all of these things are apparently the modus operandi of the Bureau of Land Management. There are no tortoises involved in this incident, just land-grabbing feds who are intent to take away the property of ranchers that have owned it for hundreds of years. Will it come to armed confrontation as is occurring in Nevada? We don’t know.

Open grazing of cattle has always been a common law right in America. It is time for the American people to rise up against the theft of private lands and property by a government that is out of control. Ranchers have contact Texas Representative Mac Thornberry for assistance. We will monitor this situation as it progresses.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: blm; land; texas; theft
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To: null and void
They need the shootin’ war to “temporarily” suspend the Constitution and elections.

They need it to "permanently" suspend the Constitution and elections. That will be their Reichstag fire. They are perfectly willing to sacrifice a few government agents and patriots to further their agenda. They are praying for it.

61 posted on 04/13/2014 7:11:52 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: JRandomFreeper

On Arkansas land, as I am told.


62 posted on 04/13/2014 7:14:57 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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To: Texas Fossil

Dave Hodges (common sense show:)
http://republicbroadcasting.org/shoutcast/shoutcast.html
is talking about the Bundy ranch and ENN—says they (ENN) also own mines in the area.

They’re also rounding up wild horses to sell as meat to Mexico.


63 posted on 04/13/2014 7:20:16 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mortrey

Yep, and I heard there were rare earth metals there.


64 posted on 04/13/2014 7:23:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Texas Fossil
:-( lock & load.

65 posted on 04/13/2014 7:24:11 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: xzins

The US Government “owns” over 48% of the state of Wyoming.


66 posted on 04/13/2014 7:29:54 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Texas Fossil

Like your sprit. This is about the destruction of private property rights, at its core. This is the real fight.


67 posted on 04/13/2014 7:30:19 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: greeneyes

The point of my question is to cause folks to ask the question.

Why do these Federal Agencies feel the need to buy the ammo?

It is NOT a typical aspect of their charter.

For each of those agencies making large ammo purchases, how much ammo did they buy 10 years ago....

You know....before the Gestapo mentality took over....


68 posted on 04/13/2014 7:30:28 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: cripplecreek

Correct. They do it all the time. The BLM harrases licensed hunters during hunting season, people mining their legal claims and basically anybody walking around that they dont’ want on public land. Now that they are being given combat equipment they will run rampant.


69 posted on 04/13/2014 7:31:39 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

All politics is local.


70 posted on 04/13/2014 7:33:11 PM PDT by null and void (The British declared war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party won! (Thanks mom!))
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The BLM operates primarily out west but there are a lot of other means of grabbing control of land. Wetlands designations, buffer zones, land trusts......


71 posted on 04/13/2014 7:37:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Nuc 1.1

Yep, the real deal.

Commies hate rule of law and private property.

We fought a Civil War to resolve the issue of slavery based on race.

Now we have a government that is intent on establishing Universal Slavery to the federal govenment and foreign powers. How do you think that is going to play out?

I can tell you it won’t happen in TX.


72 posted on 04/13/2014 7:38:06 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Mark17

Hence the sarcasm/irony quotation marks on temporary.


73 posted on 04/13/2014 7:38:43 PM PDT by null and void (The British declared war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party won! (Thanks mom!))
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To: Texas Fossil

My Great Grandfather lost a 120 Acre place on the banks of Red River in a flood about 90 years ago and the river still runs through it. It is my understanding that title reverted back to the Choctaw/Chickasaw Nations. I know of several farms with river frontage that now have the river splitting the acreage.


74 posted on 04/13/2014 7:40:00 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: G Larry

Like why does the Dept. of Education need to be armed to the teeth, and kick down doors for delinquent loans? Black boot mentality running wild.

The huge government ammo buy inspires citizens to buy even more.


75 posted on 04/13/2014 7:40:45 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Mariner

The guest speaking on the common sense show said that 90% of Nevada is “owned” by the feds.

She’s also saying the endangered species act is a cover for Agenda 21...herd humans into cities and out of the turtles’ habitat, ‘cause they “care” about animals. (the endangered species act has not saved ANY animals from extinction.)


76 posted on 04/13/2014 7:40:50 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes Mr. GG2 is from the West and had a few run ins out there with the BLM over the years both hunting and mining. They are really bad news.

In GA we see some water issues. Nothing like out West. The EPA is going to be more of a problem here. Trying to call a ditch a stream. That kind of thing.


77 posted on 04/13/2014 7:44:08 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
“Texas has had artillery on the Red River before, and may again.”

LOL! Are you talking about the 1930’s when Gov. “Alfalfa Bill” Murray closed the OK side of the Red River to Texans because TX only charged Oklahomans a crossing fee over the bridges? The Governor had the OK National Guard on the bridges to close them down. My Mom is about 90 and has a picture of my step-dad as a teenager in the OK Guard in uniform with a Springfield rifle on a closed bridge. Next to him is a Model A with Alfalfa Bill standing and posing with his foot up on the Model A's running board.

78 posted on 04/13/2014 7:45:15 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: Hootowl99
I was talking about the War between the States.

The Red River has been a spot for fighting, or not fighting, for centuries.

/johnny

79 posted on 04/13/2014 7:48:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

We had a local case where a guy owed back taxes on 300 acres but was fighting an environmentalist group trying to prevent drilling leases on his land.

The state and county watched long enough to be able to seize the land, bought the mineral rights and auctioned off the property. Within a month of the seizure the court ruled that the drilling leases could go ahead.


80 posted on 04/13/2014 7:48:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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