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1 posted on 03/16/2014 8:21:40 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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Why are the accepting forged documents as legal evidence of anything? Documents they don’t even have in hand? I don’t get it.


41 posted on 03/16/2014 9:32:14 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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May the truth be known. ALL of it!

Unless this blockage is eliminated and natural functions restored, we will succumb to our worsening dementia and drown in our accumulating waste, while we teach ourselves to call this fecal pollution in our wellspring fresh, pure and clean.

45 posted on 03/16/2014 9:34:31 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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“He (BHO) was a natural born American on the date of his birth,
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Not with that foreign born father he wasn’t...

both parents have top be American citizens at the time of his birth..

Obama Senior was British...


50 posted on 03/16/2014 9:36:35 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Obama is home free, the only thing left is to punish Democrats, we can punish them for Obama a long time.


55 posted on 03/16/2014 9:47:36 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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But documents signed by Pelosi stating his ineligibilty, sounds like jail time for nan. That sucking sound may come in handy
57 posted on 03/16/2014 9:51:53 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Zippy the a##clown sez..............)
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DNA autosomal recessive gene testing of one or the other or both of Barack and Michelle Obama’s White House children and any other alleged Barack Obama children and any of the alleged half siblings or alleged cousins, aunts, uncles, of Barack Obama would prove whether or not the person named Barack Obama Sr were related by blood. Ditto to compare their DNA to the children, cousins, second cousins or their offspring of Malcolm X. Ditto to compare their DNA to the cousins or second cousins or their offspring of Frank Marshall Davis. One would also find out who else who has been tested already in one of the DNA databases is his relative or how far removed.


73 posted on 03/16/2014 10:27:28 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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Even if Obama is never removed from office over this, I wouldn't mind it if he always has an asterisk by his name for all future generations.

-PJ

94 posted on 03/16/2014 12:12:46 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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The brief is to offer a straightforward theory. What is narrated is like a block of swiss cheese. Here is my theory and I believe it has more historical dots than Moore’s. Obama was conceived in Indonesia in a tryst of Stanly Ann and a Muslim ‘guru’ named Subuh. Stanley Ann was being indoctrinated along with/by a friend Loretta Fuddy. Stanley Ann was then shunned and had to leave Indonesia. She went back to Hawaii and with the help of her parents connected up with ObamaI, who was a college student with like political beliefs and had family in Kenya, to legitimize the baby. However, there was a hitch in that ObamaI was already married to a women in his home nation of Kenya and Hawaii would not recognize plural marriages. Stanly Ann and ObamaI went to Kenya for the marriage and birth of ObamaII. Immediately after birth Stanley Ann booked a flight back to the States via Seattle. Air travel rules for day old babies prevented immediate return but Stanley Ann and the baby did go to Seattle where Stanly Ann enrolled at U of Washington and connected with an old friend associated with the cult in Indonesia named Loretta Fuddy. Fuddy at this time was promoting the cult in Seattle. Stanly Ann’s sojourn into the communist world of her parents and others have been papered over. There is a court record in Hawaii of her hurried divorce from ObamaI. Stanley Ann then hooked up with Soetero and goes back with him to Indonesia where ObamaII goes to school for a few years until Stanley Ann and Soetero split and ObamaII goes in the care/custody of grandma in Hawaii. There are still many dots to connect as to ObamaII’s connections along the way to POTUSA.


97 posted on 03/16/2014 12:31:22 PM PDT by noinfringers2 ( /*)
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99 posted on 03/16/2014 12:59:26 PM PDT by QT3.14
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Let’s not forget our leaders in the Republican party and this includes our talking radio bobble heads aided in this scam and it’s cover up.

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104 posted on 03/16/2014 2:44:39 PM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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Aka obama has consistently claimed that he is the son of Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama, senior. He has been consistent in this over time throughout his claimed personal discovery of one or two birth certificates and other identity documents and his meetings with extended “family” members.

Regardless of what his true nativity story is or who his real parents are, for all legal intents and purposes, he either was born with split allegiance (and hence not a natural born Citizen of any country) or is guilty of premeditated criminal identity fraud (or both).

Either way, he is a bogus president and in ineligible usurper.


118 posted on 03/16/2014 6:01:24 PM PDT by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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...Attorney Moore (pg. 10) is asking that the AL Supreme Court remand the Obama eligibility conundrum back to the trial court to seek discovery concerning the following: a. subpoenaing his (BHO) DNA...

Even if by some longshot chance such a subpoena was issued and enforced, Obama's DNA by itself would not be very useful in determining who his biological parents were. To rule in or rule out any potential individual as an Obama parent, one would need to get someone else's DNA as well, preferably that of several other individuals. For example, Obama's supposed biological half-siblings would have some degree of similarity in their DNA if they had one parent in common. The half-siblings fathered by Barack Sr. would be the ideal people give their DNA samples for purposes of comparison to Barack II's in order to make a determination as to whether or not Obama Sr. is Barack's natural father, and likewise his half-sister assumed to have Stanley Ann Dunham as her mother would be an ideal person to give a DNA sample in order to determine whether or not Stanley Ann is Barack's natural mother. But if and when you rule out both Obama Sr. and SAD as biological parents, you still can't determine who exactly are the biological parents by Barack II's DNA alone, and would still require DNA from those real parents or close relatives of them, respectively, to make a definitive determination of parenthood.

So Mr. Moore's idea of obtaining a subpoena for Barack II's DNA is probably not worth the effort unless the DNA of significant others can obtained as well. And the latter figures to be a very tedious and impractical plan of action, especially when you consider that the persons of interest may be scattered around the world or deceased and cremated.

119 posted on 03/16/2014 6:06:04 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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Thanks for this thread.

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” - - - - - Additionally, the brief goes on to say that this man in 1981, traveled to Indonesia on his Indonesian passport, got a student visa and re-entered the U.S. on this foreign passport using the name Barry Soetoro. The Columbia University years were spent as a “foreign student.” - - - - - “

Impeach in 2014, Democrat B. Hussein Obama, also known as Barry Soetoro, a legal citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.


125 posted on 03/16/2014 7:25:35 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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His father not being a US citizen was enough to make him ineligible.


127 posted on 03/16/2014 7:53:35 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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“He (BHO) was a natural born American on the date of his birth,

There are two interesting bits here from uscis.gov about people born outside the U.S. and territories:

1. One parent is a U.S. citizen at the time of birth and the birthdate is before November 14, 1986 but after October 10, 1952

The parents are married at the time of birth and the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. or its territories for a period of at least ten years at some time in his or her life prior to the birth, at least five of which were after his or her 14th birthday.


2. I am claiming citizenship through my mother. My parents were not married at the time of my birth. Does this affect whether I automatically acquired citizenship?

It may. You acquired U.S. citizenship at the time of your birth if you were born out of wedlock after December 23, 1952 and your U.S. citizen mother was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for at least one year prior to your birth.


So according to this a bastard born outside the U.S. to a 14-year-old U.S. citizen mother who had lived in the U.S. or its outlying possessions for at least a year prior to his birth is automatically a citizen, but if he is born to a 18 year old U.S. citizen mother who was, at the time of his birth, married to a foreign citizen then he is not a citizen because she had not been "physically present in the U.S. or its territories" at least 5 years after her 14th birthday.


175 posted on 03/17/2014 4:42:50 PM PDT by aruanan
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Moore just may be right and old man stanley the dad. Stanley ann took the kid off the old folks hands until they could take care of him. This would also work for S ann goin to U Washington August 19,1961 because barry is actually older and maybe did not have to register for the draft but forged docs to go with his reported birth date! Maybe Sheriff joes crew is on to this.


205 posted on 03/19/2014 9:00:28 AM PDT by DCmarcher-976453
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The Alabama Supreme Court has affirmed the lower court’s opinion. https://acis.alabama.gov/displaydocs.cfm?no=565288&event=40Y0LG67K


209 posted on 03/21/2014 8:35:41 AM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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