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To: af_vet_1981
Jesus and Beelzebul

Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. All the people were astonished and said, “Could this be the Son of David?”

But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.”

Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

“Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man’s house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can plunder his house.

“Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

“Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”


963 posted on 03/10/2014 1:40:52 PM PDT by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
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To: Errant
Is it your position that those in this thread that disagree with you are speaking against the Holy Spirit ?

At any rate, I find it plausible that there were Hebrew versions of the NT books, some of them original. It interesting but we have inherited a history where almost the entire world has been usings translations based on the Greek text. God has allowed the other manuscripts to be lost, destroyed, or forgotten, or hidden perhaps. It is interesting to ponder how a translation could be improved or corrected, and perhaps edifying and enlightening. It is hardly reasonable to insist on any doctrinal change without the manuscripts and, even so, uncharted territory to assert that the Gospel has not been preserved in an unbroken chain from the Jewish Apostles. We must be very cautious, as there have been so many denominations, sects, cults, and heresies that have arisen over the centuries.

Galations 1

  1. Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
  2. And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
  3. Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
  4. Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
  5. To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
  6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
  7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
  8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
  9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

969 posted on 03/10/2014 8:30:43 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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