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To: Iscool
He can not change himself but he certainly can change direction as was proven in the scripture I posted...

No, he didn't change direction - not according to the prophets. That he allows time for repentance and non-repentance does not change what is declared.

He became manifest in the flesh which was a pretty significant change so we know he can change like that...

Nope. Part of the plan. MASSIVELY predicted in Torah.

It was against God's law to eat pork because it was unclean...God changed that, didn't he...

Nope. Torah kosher is still what it always was.

John the baptist was told to baptize with water but Jesus baptized with the Holy Spirit...All kinds of changes in the scripture...

No... Find it in Torah. Your problem is 'baptism'... Allowing the NT to define the terms.

Even you guys admit to changes...How many of those 613 Laws still apply to you???

Essentially all of them - though I do not recognize the Rabbinical view. ALL of Torah is still applicable. It can't *not* be.

In the Torah, the prophets spent a great deal of time prophesying about the Millennial reign of a physical kingdom with a King on a physical throne...A kingdom where the Torah will be in full force...That prophecy is all still true...

Yep... with bells on.

The apostle Paul does not void the Torah...The laws of the Torah along with it's feasts and sacrifices have been set aside by God while Israel has been set aside...Not eliminated, but set aside temporarily...

The easiest thing to point to is the feasts - If you don't know them, and practice them, what is coming WILL come to you as a thief in the night. It is those who understand the times and seasons (the Holy Days and Jubilees) that will not be caught unawares.

In that context Paul is not a liar...

Paul is not a liar at all. It is what you THINK he says that is misleading.

Paul's epistles can not be made to be understood to align with the Torah...You can chose to disregard what I accept that Paul teaches but you are no better off because you then have to trash most of what Paul says anyway...What Paul teaches just doesn't fit with the Torah, because it was not intended to...

I wholly disagree. I don't trash what Paul says at all. I just see it in a different light than you do. The Scriptures themselves say that Paul is tough sledding to those who don't understand... And then, one has to trash James and Peter and John to arrive at the conclusions y'all have met in Paul - How can you read Paul in harmony with them, and in harmony with Yeshua's own words, and in harmony with Torah? THEN you will see what Paul is saying.

828 posted on 03/07/2014 8:02:46 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
Essentially all of them - though I do not recognize the Rabbinical view. ALL of Torah is still applicable. It can't *not* be.

You're not being consistent.

Then it all needs to be kept and if it isn't, we are guilty.

Do you stone the adulterous?

So you show yourself to the priest for skin lesions?

To whom do you give the tenth of your produce/income?

839 posted on 03/08/2014 4:39:25 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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