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To: roamer_1

No you are correct in that Torah teaches we are damned destitute sinners in need of atoning blood. What comes across in some of these posts is the lifting of the Law as the path to righteousness. I see Torah, Torah Torah, Law Law Law and it seems you are alone in invoking the Blood of Jesus Christ (Yeshua)

I believe that was my point.


409 posted on 03/05/2014 6:55:24 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter
No you are correct in that Torah teaches we are damned destitute sinners in need of atoning blood. What comes across in some of these posts is the lifting of the Law as the path to righteousness. I see Torah, Torah Torah, Law Law Law and it seems you are alone in invoking the Blood of Jesus Christ (Yeshua) I believe that was my point.

I think that is more a mechanism of the conversation than a matter of belief - 'Obedience' v 'No need for obedience' is bound to fracture along the line of the Torah. I don't see how ANY Messianic could not fully understand the need of the blood of Yeshua. In fact, because of their understanding of Torah, the requirement should be all the more apparent.

While the case can be made that Torah is the path to righteousness (as our Jewish brethren believe), I would assert that there is no one here that doesn't fully understand that that path necessarily leads right to the foot of the cross.

424 posted on 03/05/2014 7:33:16 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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>> “ I see Torah, Torah Torah, Law Law Law and it seems you are alone in invoking the Blood of Jesus Christ (Yeshua)” <<

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The blood is the sole source of justification. The point is how one ultimately is able to endure to the end in faith, to receive that saving justification.

No one can possibly do that without Torah written on their heart.

You are reading too much of the harpies nonsense, I suspect.
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431 posted on 03/05/2014 7:54:52 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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