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To: redleghunter
I think the above is very clear. Of the OT scriptures, the focus is what they have to say about Jesus Christ and finding Him; and most importantly the purpose of His death and resurrection. Not splitting hairs, but I fail to see the commission for teaching the Law.

To stay specifically within your proof texts, how does one preach 'repentance and remission of sins' (Lk 24:47) without transmitting the definition of sin? How does one define sin without Torah? Knowledge of sin is found therein. What else defines wickedness (twisting of Torah) and iniquity (lawlessness)? How does a pagan understand what he has done and why it warrants the grace that comes with Messiah? How does he understand how another can take his place? How can he know 'right living' after the fact of his salvation? How is that given to the next generation?

378 posted on 03/05/2014 4:55:37 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

No you are correct in that Torah teaches we are damned destitute sinners in need of atoning blood. What comes across in some of these posts is the lifting of the Law as the path to righteousness. I see Torah, Torah Torah, Law Law Law and it seems you are alone in invoking the Blood of Jesus Christ (Yeshua)

I believe that was my point.


409 posted on 03/05/2014 6:55:24 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: roamer_1
Rood and his followers and the Hebrew Roots people were already addressed by the Holy Spirit in Scripture before they were a twinkle in their father's eye.

They are trying to put a yoke on the necks of believers that the Jews themselves were not able to bear.

Acts 15:5-29 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.”

The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith. Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.”

And all the assembly fell silent, and they listened to Barnabas and Paul as they related what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles. After they finished speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written,

“‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it, that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things known from of old.’

Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.”

Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, with the following letter:

“The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

421 posted on 03/05/2014 7:24:31 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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