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To: Ray76

You want my theory?

My theory is that the people on board are decent people who would not watch an assassin kill Fuddy. They have kept quiet because they believed what was done was necessary to protect Fuddy - to put her in protective custody, so to speak. And I believe that’s what happened. I believe the extras were there to make sure everybody was safe while Fuddy was retrieved, with either a dummy or another person left there in her place to be the last person picked out of the water. I believe she was taken somewhere to live out the rest of her days under a different identity, just like the Benghazi witnesses were given new identities to keep them away from Congressional investigators. So what I’m suggesting here is nothing bizarre; we already know it’s been done for multiple people to keep them unavailable to investigators.

Obama’s people are very likely to know what Arpaio has on Obama. Just like they knew what happened in Benghazi. And in Fast & Furious. And in the Bin Laden raid. And in Extortion 17. And in the IRS targetings. And in the Boston bombing. And in the Morsi election. And in the Kenyan election. Etc ad nauseum. This is the kind of stuff that this regime does, and there is nothing radical about just coming out and saying that’s how these people operate.

There was a woman there who looks so much like Fuddy that I spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out which one it was. I suspect that she and/or a purplish inflatable filled in for Fuddy once she was taken out from under her life jacket, and perhaps the Fuddy-like woman filled in for her under the blanket while the priest did whatever he did at the care home. The “body” was transported to the Molokai airport where Fuddy’s family (probably sister and brother-in-law) ID’ed the body. The brother-in-law said he was helping out on the ground there in Kalaupapa when he found out there was a family member involved, but the MCFD incident report does not name Scotty Schaefer and though I’d have to check again, IIRC it doesn’t mention EMS from Molokai Hospital, which I believe is who Schaefer works for. The reports said MCFD flew the victims to Molokai (or Maui, depending on which news report is referenced).

I didn’t worry about the funeral at first because I figured if she was still alive they would either claim to have cremated her or have a Hollywood-style mock-up of her in a casket. And if she was dead, then she was dead - which was what I initially believed. But there was something goofy with that funeral, or KITV would not have had to photoshop the casket with her hands showing. In any event, the mourners would not have had to think anything was different than usual - either if they had a mock-up or if they had an urn.

Most, if not all, of the people in that plane knew there were extra people in the water. I suspect that at least some of them were in the plane’s cargo area and exited while Puentes held his hand over the camera making a lot of dark frames that could be edited out later with nobody being any the wiser.

None of the others acted very surprised. None of them said anything about it afterwards. But there the people are in the video. (And there’s more coming) Puentes was prepared with 2 GoPros and a waterproof microphone that he clipped onto his life jacket. Richard Kawasaki, the media liaison for the MCFD, was prepared with his story of one dead - 4 minutes before the Coast Guard was confirmed as being on-site and I think 20 minutes before anybody at the MCFD even knew how many the USCG had picked up - and Fuddy was the last one they picked up. If they picked her up; they claimed to have picked up 3, but the 73-year-old woman, Kawasaki, and the 70ish-year-old man make 3 without Fuddy.

In short, I believe this was a planned crash with people arranged to be there to keep a close watch and keep everybody safe. I believe the photography may have been to prove that they did not kill Fuddy, and that they did their jobs to keep everybody safe. With those extra people in the water it is clear that something was up, and if I was any one of those passengers I would want video to prove that I did not kill Fuddy. The edited video was supposed to satisfy all of us, or at least provide a way for the media and other “concerned” people to ridicule anybody who still claimed the Fuddy death was suspicious. But there was so much going on - so many extra people to try to avoid, so many things we were supposed to be kept from seeing, and only so much film. As a result, some things got left in there that nobody was supposed to see because it was dark and zipped by too fast for anybody to see.

I bet they were laughing their buns off at using that video as proof against the “conspiracy kooks”, wiping our faces in the fact that they can even turn evidence against them into evidence against us. Just like they did with the fake long-form and the verification that actually verified that Obama’s BC is legally non-valid. That is just how these people ARE. They mock truth every chance they get. You’ve seen it.

So. That’s what I believe.


775 posted on 03/02/2014 12:08:14 AM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion

Why on earth would you need to crash a plan with all those peope witnessing it and risking so many lives, when all you need to do to take someone into protective custody is to knock on their door when it’s dark. This is how crazy you are that you would think somebody would make up a mad crash scenario to achieve something that is done without fuss every day of the week. If you can’t explain why they went to so much trouble, your theory fails entirely. You are entering into madwoman territory.


777 posted on 03/02/2014 1:00:27 AM PST by cousteausghost
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To: butterdezillion

If someone said to me that I had to be a passenger in an aircraft that was going to crash into the ocean in order to fake someone’s death, I wouldn’t get on board. It’s absurd to believe that anyone would.


785 posted on 03/02/2014 9:54:58 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: butterdezillion
In other news, Butter, did you know, Tim McVeigh's execution was faked. Yep, he woke up a few hours later at Mt. Weather a bit under the weather as the drugs wore off. After a short, secret ceremony honoring him for his service to the Regime, he was outfitted with a new identity and shipped off to parts unknown.

Rumor has it that he owns a convenience store in Comodoro Rivadavia. I see it's a balmy 75°F there, and the food is good, so why not fly down with your GoPro and check up on him!

790 posted on 03/02/2014 11:18:10 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: butterdezillion

Thank you for explaining your theory, now we can get to work proving or debunking it - becasue thatmis what this thread is for right? To get to the truth. Is my understanding of your theory correct? Fuddy was taken into protected custody to prevent her saying something, yes? If that is the theory, can you please explain why the FBI didn’t simply knock on her door and take her away in a SUV?

Takes less than a minute, costs nothing and is much lower risk than causing two plane crashes over open water and faking an open casket funeral.

Previously you have said the FBI wouldn’t just arrest her because too many family and friends would question her sudden disappearance. But they do it hundreds of times every week - why is Fuddy different? But even that makes no sense at all since in your alternate theory, those exact same people and hundreds more are bribed by the regime to stay quiet about the fake crashes and fake funeral. So they can’t be trusted to keep quite about an FBI arrest (and why would it even be necessary to keep it quiet - who the he££ cares??) but they can be trusted to not say a word about a faked plane crash and a faked open casket funeral. There is no internal logic to this theory, and therefore I suggest it fails.


799 posted on 03/03/2014 2:39:11 AM PST by cousteausghost
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Regarding the theory posited in Post #775, above, I have a few observations and questions. This is an open forum question. I invite reply from anyone who thinks Butterdezillion's theory is plausible. The supposition seems to be (via analogy to the Benghazzi witnesses being given "protection") that Loretta Fuddy was secretly taken into protective custody to keep from having to give testimony that would prove discomforting to "The Regime." But testimony to whom?

The MSM has long since ceased expressing interest in Obama's history and eligibility. The same is true for the Congress (for which, unlike Benghazzi, there's no Republican inquiry). And no civil lawsuit pertaining in any way to Obama's eligibility has even gotten to the discovery stage.

So how is it that Loretta Fuddy needed to be protected? Protected from whom? She had said nothing to suggest that Obama's birth certificate was anything other than genuine, and no one in a position of authority was in the least challenging that.

So the notion that she was made the subject of a staged airplane crash, along with a staged funeral, to put her into protective custody is ludicrous The theory lacks any coherent theory of motive.

But lunatic theories have their adherents. No doubt once Orly Taitz catches wind of #775 and related "evidence," she'll spring into action. One can anticipate a new lawsuit against the State of Hawaii, the CIA, Fuddy's relatives, and NOAA, along with her "Emergency Writ of Habeas Floatus" to get at the Inflatable Fuddy-Double.

March Madness is kicking into gear early.

808 posted on 03/03/2014 3:16:42 PM PST by CpnHook
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