Posted on 02/23/2014 1:31:16 AM PST by cunning_fish
A member of Ukraines opposition movement has called on Jewish and Muslim billionaire businessmen to force the president, Victor Yanukovich, to step down.
In a speech in Kievs Independence Square, the unnamed protester, who said he was Muslim, urged Ihor Kolomoyskyi, Victor Pinchuk and David Zhvania -oligarchs with links to the protest movement - to talk to the president.
He said: You practice Judaism. In the holy synagogue, you have seats with placards. And you, today, are the only people who have access to Yanukovich.
In another week, your businesses, which you have earned in this land through the work of this people, will fall. And if he [the president] doesnt listen to you, present him, as the chief commander of the armed forces, with a gun.
Commentators in Ukraine say the man was suggesting that the oligarchs should persuade president Yanukovich to commit suicide.
There have been fears that the instability in Ukraine has caused fresh outbreaks of antisemitism in the country with a number of attacks against synagogues and yeshivas reported.
The far-right Svoboda party, which has links to other fascist parties in Europe such as the BNP, has also enjoyed an upswing of support as a result of the turmoil.
According to the latest information provided by news agencies, the death toll in Ukraine has now reached 75.
(Excerpt) Read more at thejc.com ...
One-way tickets to Israel or the Americas is suggested for any and all Jews in Europe. We’ve seen this movie before. Get out before it’s too late.
Kiev’s Jews told to flee
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3126041/posts
This is curious. Ukrainians don’t care much for Jews and they are not a fan of Muslims either
>>This is curious. Ukrainians dont care much for Jews and they are not a fan of Muslims either<<
Browse for ‘pogrom’. The vast majority of these events happened in Ukraine, or former Polish territories, occupied by Ukraine right now.
Note that it is the so called “pro-EU” protestors who are being a threat to Ukraine’s Jewish community...
True...
Ukrainians aided the Nazis in the Baby Yar massacre during WW II....nearly 40,000 Jews were shot and killed outside Kiev
Also, there must be a reason why the leaders of the Jewish community in Ukraine, the Chabad, support Russia instead of the EU/Soros/Obama folks
It seems that every group of thugs must have a scapegoat in order to fire up its base, in the former USA it would appear that Christians are the new chosen ones.
>>Note that it is the so called pro-EU protestors who are being a threat to Ukraines Jewish community...<<
Well, EU’s leading nation has a vast experience in organizing the rest of subtle Europeans for dealing with Jewish issues.
>>Also, there must be a reason why the leaders of the Jewish community in Ukraine, the Chabad, support Russia instead of the EU/Soros/Obama folks<<
Well, who finally liberated Auschwitz? It wasn’t EU for sure.
As soon as I saw Preseident Urkel Obama take an interest in the Ukrainian stituation and side with the protesters and rioters I knew there had to be muslims involved.
“You practice Judaism. (...) ...should persuade president Yanukovich to commit suicide.”
Something tells me they’re not well acquainted with how this entire “Judaism” thing works.
Revolutions that end well are so rare that the wisest course is to almost always oppose them.
They shouldn’t come here. The Anti-Semites in Congress would love to destroy them along with the Christians...once that time comes.
Couldn't get much worse than what we have now and they weren't calmmering for more of that!
Oh Wait, I forgot, the one place were should have had assets to even mildly assist them, we flubbed up on. silly me.
A Ukrainian guy is getting married to a Russian girl.
A father lectures him: ‘You have to pick her on your hands to bring on a porch to show how strong Ukraine are!’
A mother lectures him: ‘Do not forget to remove all your clothes before having first sex with her to make them learn how beautiful Ukraine are!’
Senile granddad from an attic: ‘And start to masturbate immediately upon getting naked to teach them Moscovites how independent and self-reliant Ukraine are!’
An unnamed source says there was an unnamed Muslim in the protest and you believe it.
Unbelievable.
I think the American revolution is about the only one where Jews didn’t become a target. In fact, Jews were looked upon with more favor than Catholics in America at that time.
The Jews of Ukraine had the unfortunate history from which much anti-semitism in that part of Europe developed.
Why?
Jews, in Ukraine and elsewhere in Europe had no official status; they could not be citizens, own their own land, obtain political power of any kind on their own. They could be given important tasks to do by the feudal lords over them, because they were qualified AND because they could be trusted, in some ways more than a citizen, because as a non-citizen they could not obtain any direct power from it of their own.
So, the Jew - the smart ones
(while most were landless serfs like everyone else, only worse as non-citizens)
were many times the person given assignments by their feudal lords, including managing the lords tenant farms (very frequent in Ukraine) for him; collecting taxes; conducting trade for him; and things that we now call “finance” - savings, investments, buying and selling.
Many smart Jew were given those jobs BECAUSE they could not be converted to power for himself, to any kind of power only a citizen could obtain.
So, the smart Jew was the feudal lords “jack of all trades” and especially when it was work he did not want to “dirty his hands with”. Meanwhile, the majority of Jews were below, worse off, than the “bottom of society” and were not allowed to live among everyone else. But the Jew the “citizens” always saw, the Jew the fuedal lord’s citizen serfs saw, was the one the feudal lord put over them, or came for the taxes, or sold the lord’s land out from under them, leaving them landless, by orders of the lord.
Over the course of a few hundred years, as Jews achieved the rights of citizens, many “smart Jews” wound up with a sizeable presence in finance and “management” because generations of smart Jews had been doing those things for the feudal lords for a long time - because the feudal lords thought it safer for them - for their power - to give responsibilities to smart NON CITIZEN Jews.
The people in Ukraine and elsewhere increased their antisemitism over conditions that they objected to in life that they would have objected to, in reality, no matter who was “in charge” of delivering that condition. And its easy to Monday morning quarterback it and suggest that the “smart Jew” could have refused to be the feudal lords “bad guy” so often, but in the context of life as it was then, I doubt any CITIZEN would have refused.
And, after Jews could become citizens in Europe, why would NOT smart Jews put their acquired skills to work obtaining something for themself and their family, and with high skills and much experience behind them, why would they NOT be successful at it, and why would they NOT lavish education expenses on their children so they too would be successful.
The fuedal system in Europe together with the non-citizen status of the Jew in most places during most of that period was, together, a big contribution (not alone) of antisemtism AND to Jewish families arising out of that period with hig skills in finance and management. Ukraine was typical of all that, not an exception; and in the Ukraine, in the area of serfs doing their lords tenant farming, a smart Jews in-charge was very frequent.
You seem to be more confident in Obama's altruism and less suspicious about his motivation than I am.
You seem to be more confident in Obama's altruism and less suspicious about his motivation than I am.
No. Please don't put words in my mouth. You're not smart enough.
Thanks.
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