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To: Iscool

>> “You claimed Israel was the dispersed tribes who were ultimately in Iraq and other places far, far away from Palestine and they never returned.” <<

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No you claim that.

I stated plainly that “the House of Israel” was dispersed along the northern rim of the Mediterranean and that they very much knew who they were. They never did return, and now their descendants are spread across the world and many of them do not realize who they are, while others do indeed know.

The “lost sheep” among them are the remnant, not the entire population.

>> “So now you are telling me that Israel and Judah were still in Palestine but what?” <<

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Again, no you offer that nonsense to confuse (surprise!)

>> “The lost sheep of Israel still did live in Palestine and were called Gentiles??” <<

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Again more of your deliberate nonsense to confuse!

All peoples who are out of covenant are gentile, regardless of their genetics. None of “the House of Israel lived in “Palestine” (believers call it Judea, not Palestine) The gentiles that Yeshua said not to preach to were mostly Samaritans, and a few Greeks, not “The House of Israel.” Your efforts to confuse are well displayed so far.

I have laid out the elements here and you have done a yeoman’s effort at attempting to distract with your deliberate twisting. I have posted what scripture reveals, to your dismay.

Lets put an end to your twisting the identity of the peoples involved.

The “House of Israel” is the ten northern tribes that were taken to Assyria, and later migrated along the rim of the Mediterranean; the very same people that Paul, James, and Peter wrote their epistles to.

The “House of Judah” are those later taken captive to Babylon, and returned as recorded in Nehemiah, being Judah, and some of Benjamin and Levi. These were the peoples occupying Judea and part of Samaria, from which came the Pharisees that created the man made religious system that was denounced by Yeshua, Paul, James, and Peter, in their epistles that deceivers like yourself attempt to confuse with Yehova’s Torah.

Torah is the “Law of Liberty,” as opposed to the Pharisees’ “ordinances” that were “hung on the cross.”

This is the third time I have presented this in this thread alone. How many more times will your Father Satan commission you to try to confuse it?
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756 posted on 02/17/2014 8:55:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
This is the third time I have presented this in this thread alone. How many more times will your Father Satan commission you to try to confuse it?

But all in pieces stretched out over 750 posts...So now you are finished, eh??? But one more little thing...

The “House of Israel” is the ten northern tribes that were taken to Assyria, and later migrated along the rim of the Mediterranean; the very same people that Paul, James, and Peter wrote their epistles to.

So they weren't lost after all???

But Jesus didn't preach to anyone on the North side of the Mediterranean...You said the House of Israel was not in Judea but that's where Jesus went to preach...He spent all his time among the House of Judah instead of the House of Israel...What's up with that???

Torah is the “Law of Liberty,” as opposed to the Pharisees’ “ordinances” that were “hung on the cross.”

Well that's good...Even if we don't know what they were...

But that still leaves the 613 ordinances God gave to his people that are part of the Law as recorded in the scriptures that you are under...

763 posted on 02/17/2014 10:13:56 PM PST by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: editor-surveyor
Torah is the “Law of Liberty,” as opposed to the Pharisees’ “ordinances” that were “hung on the cross.”

BS. That is a lie from the pit of hell.

The Phariees' *ordinances* were not what Jesus died to set us free from because nobody was ever under them.

Jesus did not come to fulfill the traditions of the Pharisees. The traditions of the Pharisees were not legally binding on the Jews, nor anyone else.

It's through the Law that came the knowledge of sin and where the Law is, there is death. The LAW is the thing that works death. THAT is what Jesus set us free from.

Colossians 2:13-18 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.

Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.

Romans 3:19-31 Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.

But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it—the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith. For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since God is one—who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.

782 posted on 02/18/2014 1:51:29 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: editor-surveyor; restornu; teppe; Normandy
I stated plainly that “the House of Israel” was dispersed along the northern rim of the Mediterranean and that they very much knew who they were. They never did return, and now their descendants are spread across the world and many of them do not realize who they are, while others do indeed know.<>P>Thus: Lamanites & Nephites.
794 posted on 02/18/2014 2:42:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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