They first met at the Bandung Conference in Jakarta, hosted by Sukarno in 1955.
Posted on 01/22/2014 12:48:02 PM PST by iontheball
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Ibu Siti Rahayu Wiryohudoyo is Pak Subuh’s eldest daughter. She is regarded by some members as a ‘spiritual guide’, a phrase formerly applied to Pak Subuh. After his death, Ibu Siti Rahayu said that she had had a dream in which she met Pak Subuh, and that in the course of this dream he had designated her as his successor. In a recorded talk given by her on 5 March 2010 to a National Gathering in Semarang, Indonesia, Ibu Siti Rahayu explains how she came to be appointed ‘spiritual advisor’ by the Subud International Congress, although she does not say which resolution of which congress was involved.
From wiki article
Can you find any specific name that were members?
Sukarno was ousted in 1967, he lived under house arrest until he died in 1970, the year zero arrived back in Hawaii on his own. Must have had his own passport, (maybe in the name of BHO2 Soebarkah)
What were immigration to do - hand this boy over to the white couple who said they were his grandparents?
Stanley Ann wasn't just teaching english methinks. And the boy went from living in the palace, thinking of himself as an Indonesian Prince, to the son of a black Kenyan. He must have been most confused.
I agree, we know much can be planted, as you wrote. My question is however, what possible use would it be to plant the information that a person with the name of Lt Sutoro was part of the entourage of Sukarno when he was on a world tour in 1959, during which time we know he visited Hollywood and had lunch with Joan Crawford, for one thing?
Sukarno would have been accompanied by any number of people, that one was from the military and might have been part of his security seems perfectly natural.
What is of interest is that there are reports that Lolo was related to the royal family (Sultan of Jakarta) and that this particular Lt Sutoro gave his address as THE PALACE is an interesting factoid.
Lt Sutoro, in 1959 might have been an older brother, Lolo did have several iirc.
And another one nicknamed Toro attended el Camino High School from 1963, and he’s the spitting image of Lolo. He’s in the yearbook.
The boy couldn’t have been as confused as we are!
Funny how his years in Indonesia coincide with those important events.
I can’t remember the names off hand, and don’t have time today to backtrack. What I do remember is that some of the women who were friends of Ann’s in Jakarta now are members of Subud, in the state of Washington.
I agree totally. I don’t believe that record is planted. And the connections are too delicious to ignore.
I still have many pages of Indonesian history to go through, but some 600,000 people lost their lives as a result of that coup, mostly chinese, but many who weren’t muslim of course. The boy with negro features probably became a liability. First, in 1967 when Sukarno, who was a friend of MX until MX was killed in 1965, was ousted, which probably resulted in ejection from the protection of THE PALACE grounds...and then, in 1970, when Sukarno, although under house arrest, who was still treated with a certain amount of respect, died of kidney failure; it was in 1970 the boy showed up in Hawaii on his own.
It’s a jigsaw puzzle of events.
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They first met at the Bandung Conference in Jakarta, hosted by Sukarno in 1955.
just the pesky little facts
Saw that earlier and lots more. Didn’t want to make this a thread about her but thought people should know who the players are since were trying to find a link between SADO , the Durhams and Subud
A picture with members or name listed as members would be ideal!
Thanks for posting the pic and link
His great grandfather died in he fall of 68. Grandmother was executor of the will. He was quite wealthy as a family trust was formed
0 still receives income from it. See his schedule E
Grandma became his guardian to protect his assets
I know you’ve done a lot of work on the Dunham/Payne background and their connections to the oil industry, but even if Madelyn left him a million bucks in her Will, that doesn’t tell you who zero’s biological parents were, does it?
Related thread with overlapping research for anyone interested:
The REAL Obama: An INDONESIAN, Muslim, Socialist Puppet
The National Patriot ^ | January 27, 2014 at 5:06 am | By Craig Andresen
Posted on Tuesday, 28 January 2014 5:57:01 AM by onyx
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3116281/posts?page=1
Bapak was given the name Soekarno (Sukarno) by his grandfather. ... After Bapak’s name was changed to Muhammad- Subuh
http://subudstories.info/bapak/bapak-story.html
Bapak was given the name Soekarno by his grandfather. But with that name Bapak was always ill, and therefore his name was soon changed to another name, Muhammad-Subuh, to correspond with the time of Bapak’s birth which was at subuh (dawn). After Bapak’s name was changed to Muhammad-Subuh he was always healthy and seldom fell ill.
Bapak’s father was called Chasidi. During his lifetime he worked as an officer of a railway company and after he retired he worked on his own farm as a farmer. Bapak’s late father was a descendant (grandson) of Kiaji Muhammad Abubakar, or, originally, Pangeran (meaning “prince”) Sajid Muhammad Abubakar. It was told that he came from Jogjakarta, in Central Java.
Bapak’s mother’s name is Siti Kursinah. She is a descendant of Pangeran (Prince) Purbokusumo, a descendant of Sunan Kalijogo of Kadilangu Demak.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNx-8psdcUI
The Fourth Subud World Congress was the First one held in Indonesia. It was attended by the President of Indonesia, President Suharto (*preceded by Sukarno). More than 2000 people attending from all over the world (72 Countries).
This photos from Indonesia Subud Archive. SUBUD (Susila Budhi Dharma) Spiritual Subud is not a Religion.
www.subud.org
The Late Picture of INDONESIA, see at:
https://www.facebook.com/media/albums/?id=1650873616
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June 1, 1959 Lt. Sutoro enters Brownsville, TX, from Djakarta, via Mexico City, as member of President Soekarno’s entourage, which included “Dr. Suharto”. Soekarno/Sukarno was on a “world tour” at the time. The visit to the USA was “informal,” meaning no state events; the entourage stayed at the Beverly Hilton hotel in Los Angeles. No confirmation at this time as to whether or not this Lt. Sutoro is the man who married Stanley Ann Dunham (Sutoro and Soetoro are equivalents).
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350 posted on January 27, 2014 at 12:03:17 AM CST by Fred Nerks
See also post #390.
You know Fred you’ve become almost obsessed with playing Hoosierdaddy. Around here the father its whomever pays the bill. Only those who watch afternoon TV shows that specialize in DNA matches get involved in that topic here
We are interested , however, in the conflict of interest brought about by a family trust owning producing gas/oil well and blocking the keystone pipeline who’s inception would deminish his assets
AND we are interested in he and Michelle”s relationship to a black Muslim street gang conceived by a Mexican drug cartel and his unwillingness to close the southern border which benefits the same cartel.
We also are interested in that groups connection to Kadaffi - gun running - and domestic terrorism as that seems to be what he’s involved with today
All of these could land his azz in jail
Whose his parents are may make a good book/movie but is not relevant to OUR legal system
Unless the information is relevant to someone’s comment that information is kept on threads where that is the topic in an attempt not to highjack a thread from its original intent.
From what I can gather, Bapak means nothing more than the honourific ‘father’ and if that website is telling us that Subuh what-his-name was once upon a time named Soekarno and for some strange reason to do with his health as a boy, they changed it, I can’t see any connection to President Sukarno decades later.
The name Muhammad Abubakar simply shows they were muslims from way back, ‘Abu’ as a prefix to ‘bakar’ is once again ‘father’ but in arabic...
The last item on that comment was my attempt to verify from whence the docket came that showed a LT Sutoro entered the US in 1959 and gave his address as THE PALACE. I did that in an attempt to show where the docket came from that I posted, as it was suggested it was a fake.
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