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The strange death of Hawaii’s Department of Health Director, Loretta Fuddy!
You Tube ^ | January 18, 2014 | PPSimmons

Posted on 01/22/2014 12:48:02 PM PST by iontheball

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KEYWORDS: bathhousebarry; bho44; conspiracytheory; fuddy; hawaii; miamariepope; mystery; naturalborncitizen; youtubevideo
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To: maggief; hoosiermama

See FRmail :)


1,301 posted on 02/11/2014 8:13:00 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: maggief; WildHighlander

Son James
Brother Stanley
Member of Ford Motor Board
Probably an empty tenacle. But will check out


1,302 posted on 02/11/2014 8:20:57 AM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: maggief

That link is available in google cache.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?num=100&site=&q=cache:IegCXfXeU3IJ:http://icsahome.com/infoserv_respond/by_group.asp%2Bhttp://icsahome.com/infoserv_respond/by_group.asp&gbv=1&sei=t0_6UsiKFo7AkQeryYDQAw&hl=en&ct=clnk


1,303 posted on 02/11/2014 8:29:05 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Ray76

Thanks, but I think some are looking for the info in the drop down items.


1,304 posted on 02/11/2014 8:46:50 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

The drop down is populated and shows subud.


1,305 posted on 02/11/2014 8:47:39 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Ray76

Hit submit results a 404 error.


1,306 posted on 02/11/2014 8:49:16 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Ah - I didn’t submit. Got it.


1,307 posted on 02/11/2014 8:59:40 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: maggief

ICSAHOME.com subud reference here

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?num=100&site=&q=cache:cBfnYjZNum0J:http://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_enews/affnb_2006_02.htm%2Bhttp://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_enews/affnb_2006_02.htm&gbv=1&sei=HVj6UobFBJDMkAeptYHYDw&hl=en&ct=clnk


1,308 posted on 02/11/2014 9:11:40 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Ray76; WildHighlander57; hoosiermama

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9RXX8WboSqsJ:www.icsahome.com/newlook/newhome4.2info.asp%3FID%3D35640+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari


1,309 posted on 02/11/2014 9:11:55 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

The link in post 1308 references

Ulrich, Stephen C. (2005). Evaluating the charismatic group Subud: Javanese mysticism in the West. Group Dynamics: Theory, Research, and practice, 9(3), 161-172.

A google search (other engines didn’t find it) returns

http://www.subudvision.org/php/getfeed.php?file=as/Aas2.htm

which refers to an article in the American Journal of Psychotherapy (1964). I haven’t found the complete article.

http://books.google.com/books?id=6Ws5AAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Ari+Kiev

http://www.deepdyve.com/lp/sage/subud-and-mental-illness-psychiatric-illness-in-a-religious-sect-by-5iDO57Bs9y

Is this the kind of info you’re looking for?


1,310 posted on 02/11/2014 9:41:26 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: maggief

http://nusantaraislam.blogspot.com/2011/03/journal-articles.html


1,311 posted on 02/11/2014 10:13:54 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Ray76

http://nusantaraislam.blogspot.com/search/label/Subud


1,312 posted on 02/11/2014 10:21:51 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Ray76

http://www.icsahome.com/aboutus/boardscommittees

Board of Directors


1,313 posted on 02/11/2014 10:32:39 AM PST by maggief
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To: Ray76

Good links:

re: first commenter

http://www.subudvision.org/php/getfeed.php?file=as/Aas2.htm

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/queensland-teacher-jailed-for-helping-suicide-of-man-76/story-e6frg6nf-1226272723498

FEBRUARY 16, 2012

Merin Nielsen, 50, was sentenced to three years jail with a non-parole period of six months for assisting the suicide of 76-year-old Brisbane man Frank Ward.

http://www.subud.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/enews_09jul.pdf

Frank Ward recently passed away in June. He was a member of the Brisbane group.

//

Also from the above link:

http://www.subud.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/enews_09jul.pdf

Death
Deadline expiring
Hamilton Manley, aged 64 years. Our dynamic, compassionate and caring International Youth Chairman, passed away suddenly whilst swimming with family at home in Hawaii, Hilo. Suspected cause of death, a cardiac arrest, but not yet confirmed.
He was very fit, worked tirelessly with athletes, and ran basketball summer camps and clinics.
Hamilton is survived by wife Marisa.

http://www.hawaii247.com/2009/07/01/uh-hilo-coach-apparently-crowns-in-kapoho/

UH-Hilo coach apparently drowns in Kapoho
Posted on 4:09 pm, Wednesday, July 1, 2009


1,314 posted on 02/11/2014 11:01:12 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Looks like a lot of qualified people who are working together to help people break away from cult-thinking lifestyle. The need to follow others instead of thinking for themselves. Something we’ve all seen !


1,315 posted on 02/11/2014 11:04:40 AM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama
See also #1314.

Another commenter:

http://www.zoominfo.com/s/#!search/profile/company?companyId=348363263&targetid=profile

Subud Enterprises

(Copied and pasted as formatted.)

Company Description: A number of people in Subud have asked me to write this article. The reason for this is that way back in the mid ‘70s a series of events occurred which appear to have echoed on over several decades-mainly due to misunderstanding and ignorance. Many people feel that Subud has a reached a point where things must be cleared up and/or put on the table-as there is a pervasive sense of decline in the organisation. I would also sincerely hope that Subud judgements such as, ‘This is all too heavy,’ ‘This is from the heart and mind,’ etc. are not applied to this article, as this is the sort of thinking which goes to the very heart of why Subud is in the state it is today. I was opened in 1971 and became a helper several years after that. In 1975, through another Subud colleague, I became aware of the Regional Helper for Central Java, one of Subud’s largest areas, if not the largest. Letters were exchanged, and something ‘came through’ that left no doubt that we should visit this person. His name was Murhariyanto, affectionately called ‘Mas Totok’, and he was the nephew of one of Bapak’s most respected helpers, the late Pak Sudarto. Apparently Pak Sudarto had opened Mas Totok when he was a young boy. We also became aware that Mas Totok’s father, i.e. Sudarto’s brother, had been ‘opened’ many many years earlier. This raised certain questions about the relationship of Javanese spiritual tradition to the Subud latihan-as it seemed that Subud was not alone, that there were others opened independently of Subud. Newly married, my wife Julie and myself borrowed some money and hopped on a plane to spend three weeks in Indonesia. This was our first trip overseas. During this time in Central Java we found that many doors opened up; we felt tremendous love, warmth, and ‘safety’ and we also received a lot of sound advice. At the time we had a clear sense that this was something we had to do , something that was important for us and that we had to experience, something that would stay with us long after we left. We found Mas Totok to be a very approachable, likeable person who was relatively well educated and spoke reasonable English. He was also very courageous in the way he expressed his views, views that seemed to me to be based on integrity and strong values. He said things that some of us were perhaps only thinking-and had the guts to uphold these views, often in quite confrontational situations. Like all of us, he had his foibles and peculiarities, but this in no way detracted from the content of the experience for those in his presence. It is also worth mentioning that, apart from Mas Totok, when we were in Central Java we met a number of other very impressive people who were not in Subud, yet appeared to be opened, some of whom had profound spiritual knowledge. One of these people was a highly regarded and well-known Christian priest. Our experience in Central Java was very powerful and convincing; however, on our return we kept the experience to ourselves despite constant questions and badgering from our Subud brothers and sisters, almost all of them helpers. After a month or so, we were invited to dinner with some helpers who were curious (to the point of obsession) about why we had so ‘mysteriously’ disappeared off overseas to Indonesia-yet did not go to Wisma Subud. We finally explained the reason and also gave an account of our experiences in an objective and matter-of-fact manner. One event led to another, the result being that some Subud members, again nearly all helpers in the Melbourne group, invited Mas Totok out to Australia. This had quite severe ramifications for Subud, particularly in Melbourne, but also internationally. The Subud organisation felt we had made a choice, ostensibly turning away from Subud. This was an incorrect judgement, as no such choice had been made. As I remember it, a message was received from Cilandak that the people involved with Mas Totok must choose between Mas Totok and Subud. People were therefore asked to make a choice; it was not something done of their own volition. Hindsight is a wonderful thing; perhaps this whole episode could have been handled quite differently. But then again, people were very keen to meet Mas Totok: some certainly had misgivings about Subud; some specifically wanted him to visit for purposes of ‘spiritual training’, i.e. they were feeling spiritually ‘stuck’ in Subud. The end result of this was that for ten years we were out of Subud-and a number of people still are. In the mid ‘80s, through a seemingly miraculous series of events, the company I was working for sent my family and myself on an assignment in Indonesia. This was one of a number of quite extraordinary ‘coincidences’ which I will not go into here, but it culminated in Bapak’s passing one year later. We were essentially there with Bapak for the last year of his life- to the exact day . Further to this, a relative of my wife's married Bapak’s granddaughter, and along with Sjarif Horthy, I was asked to be best man at the wedding-as a result of which we became quite close to Bapak’s immediate family.

1,316 posted on 02/11/2014 11:14:01 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Pears to be a lot of that dying by heart attack while swimming going around

Did you notice the single word at the top of page five? Looking for source or definition


1,317 posted on 02/11/2014 11:37:28 AM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Ray76

Think we’re just trolling the dollar thru the trailer park right now!
We never know what may come up. Thanks for helping


1,318 posted on 02/11/2014 11:40:05 AM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

I agree


1,319 posted on 02/11/2014 11:45:03 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: hoosiermama

http://anthropology.uwo.ca/PDF/Grad/Documents/theses.pdf

Thank you, hoosiermama. You proved my point that prior research, even if not published, is kept track of and made available for current students, researchers, and writers to take note of and cite in their own works. Most of these are masters theses, and some Ph.D. dissertations.


1,320 posted on 02/11/2014 11:45:28 AM PST by Greenperson
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