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War Elephant Myths Debunked by DNA
The Institute for Genomic Biology ^ | January 20, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 01/20/2014 6:06:44 PM PST by lbryce

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To: Little Pig

I hit post before finishing my thought. Bleh. So if the elephant population can change (smaller tusks) in such a short time, there’s no reason to think that a similar change regarding size couldn’t also take place.

There are stories in India that the elephants here used to be bigger than they are now.


21 posted on 01/20/2014 8:02:04 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Flycatcher

That was just another one of their catchphrases.

IIRC one of them found a Zippo lighter with ‘Malmorg in Plano’ inscribed on it and so they incorporated into their act. It was a phrase of mystery, no one knew if Malmorg was a man, a company, if Plano TX was where he/it was located. Great stuff.


22 posted on 01/20/2014 8:07:19 PM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: Little Pig

Oh, and further, Asian elephants now are bred specifically (when they are deliberately bred) for utility in farming and forestry, which would tend to require a smaller, more “nimble” elephant that is also more tractable. A large war elephant would not have the temperament to move logs all day, and would be more difficult to restrain and would have a harder time navigating the dense forests of Asia. So on top of most of the big war elephants possibly having been all but wiped out in battles, those that were left were probably not bred back into the population due to their now-undesirable tendencies.

I’d bet I could have Asian war elephants that towered over even Savannah elephants within three or four generations again, if I tried.


23 posted on 01/20/2014 8:07:53 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Flycatcher

Some links I found- haven’t played them yet so they’ll be a surprise to me as well.

http://firesigntheatre.com/media/audvid/sfi1.mp3

http://firesigntheatre.com/media/audvid/sfi7.mp3

http://firesigntheatre.com/media/audvid/sfi22.mp3

http://firesigntheatre.com/media/audvid/sfi23.mp3

http://firesigntheatre.com/media/audvid/sfi27.mp3


24 posted on 01/20/2014 8:11:23 PM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: Pelham
Thanks.

I'll enjoy checking those out.

25 posted on 01/20/2014 8:16:54 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: freedumb2003
Well, that and the Battle for Gondor.

Heh, my first thought was oliphants, as well!

26 posted on 01/20/2014 9:05:54 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: lbryce

I thought this was going to be en explanation for the total lack of a spine in the GOP.


27 posted on 01/20/2014 9:09:56 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: lbryce

Hannibal took Ibizan Hounds with him.

/irrelevant interjection

:)


28 posted on 01/20/2014 9:10:47 PM PST by Salamander (Sleeping don't come very easy in a strait white vest.)
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To: Flycatcher

Would you like one of my cyanide capsules?


29 posted on 01/20/2014 9:11:26 PM PST by Salamander (Sleeping don't come very easy in a strait white vest.)
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To: Salamander
Yes.

And tell my wife I loved her.

30 posted on 01/20/2014 9:24:43 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Little Pig

Not sure about the following anecdotal story’s veracity, but here goes- attended a motivational seminar with Zig Ziglar, Brian Tracy, and Captain Gerald Coffey?/Coffee? who was a VN POW. Brian Tracy spoke on how an elephant is trained. In it’s youth, a large rope is attached to one of it’s legs. Try as it might, it cannot break free, tugging, pulling, sounding, etc. Over and over it tries. Day after day after day, until finally giving up. Then it is easy to restrain the animal with a rope for it has been conditioned to believe that it can never escape from it’s captivity as long as the rope is attached to it’s leg. In maturity, the elephant can easily escape captivity due to it’s enormous size and strength, but it does not do so for it has been convinced otherwise. Of course, the reason Brian Tracy tells the story, is to knock people out of their conditioned beliefs that keep them held in captivity by their own thoughts, which is akin to the rope, ever so small, tethered (likewise) to the large and powerful elephant.


31 posted on 01/20/2014 9:44:19 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: Flycatcher

Is she named Laura, by chance?

;D


32 posted on 01/20/2014 9:56:17 PM PST by Salamander (Sleeping don't come very easy in a strait white vest.)
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To: lbryce
What everyone thinks about war elephants is wrong, ...

Everyone?

33 posted on 01/21/2014 5:04:48 AM PST by VoiceOfBruck (Hello NSA monitors!)
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To: Little Pig

Good points.


34 posted on 01/21/2014 8:51:08 AM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: Lawgvr1955

antelope freeway 1/64th mile


35 posted on 01/21/2014 11:55:58 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Flycatcher
“What everyone thinks about war elephants is wrong,” said Alfred Roca

We have lived our lives in vain!!

36 posted on 01/21/2014 12:02:10 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: lbryce
The Elephants of Gash-Barka, Eritrea: Nuclear and Mitochondrial Genetic Patterns

Guys, look, that title will never sell. Now, Lurid Elephant Sex And Death In The African Savannah, THAT's got best-seller written all over it.

Scientists.

37 posted on 01/21/2014 12:03:32 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Truth29

turning tail and running from smaller, weaker enemies because they made a shrill noise is the GOPe calling card


38 posted on 01/21/2014 12:03:55 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Truth29

Excellent!


39 posted on 01/21/2014 2:26:16 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thapsus was fought between Caesar and the Optimates, who opposed his dictatorship. The Optimates fled to Africa and Caesar followed them. The war elephants were in the Optimate army, which lost the battle. Caesar got some elephants to panic by raining arrows on them, after which the elephants trampled their own troops. They looked fearsome to infantry, but really didn’t add much to the Roman way of war.


40 posted on 01/21/2014 4:03:14 PM PST by colorado tanker
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