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WHAT TO DO ABOUT THOSE PESKY “NO-GUNS” SIGNS
Illinois State Rifle Association ^ | Jan 16, 2014

Posted on 01/16/2014 8:03:31 AM PST by KeyLargo

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41 posted on 01/16/2014 9:31:56 AM PST by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: KeyLargo

What about walking in and asking if you can check your firearm at the front desk while you patronize the business? (You don’t actually have to packing, but could do this just to see the reaction.)


42 posted on 01/16/2014 9:33:06 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: KeyLargo

no-gun zone means civil liability.

have the lawyers lined up and ready to go.


43 posted on 01/16/2014 9:33:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: bravo whiskey

Good one!!


44 posted on 01/16/2014 9:52:12 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Mouton
I would have asked how she could in good conscience ask a law enforcement officer to disobey the law by bringing a gun into a building with a posted "No Guns Allowed" sign. After all, the law should apply to all people equally, rater than being applied differently to different groups of people. That's discrimination!
45 posted on 01/16/2014 9:54:11 AM PST by lcms rev
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To: 2001convSVT

In 6 months, I have only seen one open carry person. Most everyone carries concealed... but the right is there and affirmed!


46 posted on 01/16/2014 9:59:22 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Howie66

“Here in Texas, a business establishment has to place a State Approved sign (30.06) on their point of entry for it to be valid.”

More to the point, only bars and restauraunts that bust the 51% booze revenue law can legally put those up -— and churches I think.


47 posted on 01/16/2014 10:13:27 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: 2001convSVT

“I am glad to hear the Mississippi has open carry! I hope the Louisiana and Texas get it too. And yes, all responsible gun owners should do most of the shopping at gun friendly businesses.”

I have a CHL in New Mexico (and routintely carry in Texas).

NM is open carry, so I never worry about accidently showing my gun (e.g., coat lifts up and people see).

TX they’ve got stories about people getting arrested for “imprinting” -— a concealed gun that is visible as a buldge and such.


48 posted on 01/16/2014 10:15:25 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Just seeing that signage is enough to make me do an abrupt about-face and leave.

In Texas there are two different signs that restrict a concealed handgun license holder from carrying into a place of business. They are a 30.06 sign, and a 51% sign.

A 30.06 sign is a sign that a business owner can post to restrict a CHL holder from entering the business with a concealed handgun. The sign must contain the exact words required by Section 30.06 in both English and Spanish, be placed in an area visible to the public, and have 1” lettering or it will not be considered a legally-binding 30.06 sign. “Gunbuster” signs, or signs with a red slash through a gun, are not considered valid 30.06 postings.

A 51% sign is a sign that a business is required by law to post if 51% of their revenue is obtained through on-premises drinking, such as at a bar. Unfortunately this also has the consequence of not allowing CHL holders to enter the premises where the drinking is taking place while carrying their handgun.

Additional places are not required to post a sign to forbid CHL holders from entering the premises with their handgun as Texas law already forbids it, such as court houses and educational institutions.

In essence, one must exercise COMMON SENSE as well as being up to speed on the Law. Then again, part of the requirement in obtaining a CHL IS being familiar with the Law.


49 posted on 01/16/2014 10:28:28 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: 2001convSVT
*Those businesses should be avoided!*

Let such businesses die a swift and painful death.

Give your business to someone who deserves it!

50 posted on 01/16/2014 10:30:54 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: KeyLargo

The real solution to any “No Gun Allowed” sign, IMHO, has to wait until someone is injured or killed while in such an establishment.

Then the owner of that establishment needs to be sued in court for failing to protect people in his establishment.

Isn’t that the logical outcome of taking away a person’s God given right to self defense? If you are in a business that will not allow you to defend yourself and family, then, aren’t they responsible for your safety?

While at initial look this might be considered a frivolous law suit, IMHO, it is the logical outgrowth of various laws dealing with food safety, food temperatures, food preparation, and even those requiring bar tenders to stop serving drunks, etc.

Based on those types of laws mentioned above, if I say you can not defend yourself while in my dwelling/business didn’t I just make myself responsible for your safety?


51 posted on 01/16/2014 10:37:18 AM PST by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: Huskrrrr

“WHAT TO DO ABOUT THOSE PESKY “NO-GUNS” SIGNS?”


Carry concealed......out of sight is out of mind. And it doesn’t spook the herd of pantytwisters.

“Damn, I didn’t notice any sign. Sorry, I won’t return.”


52 posted on 01/16/2014 10:42:15 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?............................ Enforce the Bill of Rights............ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: KeyLargo
When Texas first passed CCW law these signs were all over...within a year they became scarcer and now they are few. Owners quickly found out who the real high paying customers were. I told several managers that as long as that sign was up I would not be back .The other thing is the lawyers of the franchises informed them that if there was a incident and people were killed the sign would be a liability in court!!
53 posted on 01/16/2014 10:57:49 AM PST by ontap
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To: MrB

Not if you leave when asked!!


54 posted on 01/16/2014 11:00:52 AM PST by ontap
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To: Mouton
When the Texas law was first passed I carried in a restaurant that had the sign up.....I think the waiter saw my weapon and went to the manager after asking me if I was carrying and I said yes he simply asked me to be careful not to let anyone else see it.....it was kind of a wink and nod situation!!!
55 posted on 01/16/2014 11:09:49 AM PST by ontap
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To: KeyLargo
Students called the Foreign Ministry’s travel warnings racist, noting they advised French nationals to avoid areas mainly where members of minority groups live.

Seems like the students are being racist by correlating high crime areas with areas where mainly minority groups live....

56 posted on 01/16/2014 1:12:29 PM PST by TheDon (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.)
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To: 2001convSVT

Yep. Our motto is no gun no go.


57 posted on 01/16/2014 4:58:55 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: KeyLargo

There is no impedance of self-defense other than one’s self willing allowing it. Signs can also go up stating “No public talk of politics”, etc. Whether a bow or yawn is up to you.


58 posted on 01/18/2014 3:22:04 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: KeyLargo

just keep up the pressure everwhere until it is so common, rational, and socially accepted that they are the ones who appear ridiculous for posting their signs. We can not expect to change everyone’s position on this immediately. patience and perseverence will win this war in the end though.


59 posted on 01/25/2014 6:48:35 PM PST by RC one
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