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To: MikeyB806

“Catholicism teaches that homosexuality is not a sin, but that homosexual acts are”

Legalistic sophistry


6 posted on 01/06/2014 10:28:19 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

I disagree - it is the basis of “love the sinner, hate the sin”. Homosexuality - the same-sex attraction - is temptation.

Homosexual acts are succumbing to temptation.

It is not a sin to be tempted - otherwise there would never be redemption.


10 posted on 01/06/2014 10:31:21 AM PST by MortMan ("Marriage" as a legal concept is the state piggy backing on the Church.)
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To: DesertRhino
Legalistic sophistry

!00% wrong. Ask an alcoholic who doesn't drink.


23 posted on 01/06/2014 11:07:52 AM PST by 867V309 (Obama- he's just crazy enough to do it.)
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To: DesertRhino

No, not at all. The urge to murder, for example, is not a sin...but it is if you act on it, or even if you think about it in a way to encourage the eventual act.

“Homosexuality” as such is the inclination of a particular person to a particular sin. I don’t think they’re born that way...and even if they were, it wouldn’t matter...but that homosexual inclinations are probably in most cases the result of upbringing (absent father, sexual molestation by an adult, etc.) and in that sense, the person isn’t responsible for them.

It’s the decision to act and the action that is sinful.


26 posted on 01/06/2014 11:20:33 AM PST by livius
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To: DesertRhino

“Legalistic sophistry”

Not really. Pedophiles are wired to want to have sex with kids. Murderers are wired to want to kill people. “Wanting to” is one thing, and not a sin; actually doing the act is a sin, illegal, etc.

Saying that it’s OK for people to have homosexual sex because they’re “born that way” is wrong. Would someone tell a pedophile, “Since you were born with the urge to rape children, go ahead and do it”? Self control and free will (should) work together to make all of us stop when we consider doing wrong things.


27 posted on 01/06/2014 11:29:07 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: DesertRhino
It's not legalistic sophistry. Holy Scripture makes a big distinction between temptation and sin. Jesus Cahrist was tempted in every way that we are, but He did not sin.

A person who is tempted by same-sex attraction is called a homosexual. That is not a sin, but it is a temptation and a danger, just like to an alcoholic, alcohol is a temptation and an danger. He has to flee this temptation, and deny the demands of his desires. Just like we all do.

30 posted on 01/06/2014 4:44:37 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("I said, Pray (Pray!) Ah yeah, we pray! (Pray!) We got to pray just to make it today." MC Hammer)
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To: DesertRhino

Not really “legalistic sophistry,” but a statement of fact in the Church’s teaching on sin. Re-word it to read “Catholicism teaches that ‘temptation’ (any carnal or worldly desire) is not a sin, but acting (or excessively fantasizing)on temptation is” and it becomes much clearer. After all, even Jesus was tempted.


38 posted on 01/07/2014 6:14:12 AM PST by Bill Russell
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