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Dispelling Myths: The Case for Immigration Reform [Enjoy your made-in-America ZOT, troll]
Red Dirt Report ^ | 12/27/2013 | Brian Woodward

Posted on 12/27/2013 11:24:17 AM PST by honestabe010

In his press conference on December 20th, President Obama urged the House of Representatives to support the Senate’s immigration bill, which passed 68-32 in late June. Among the concerns cited by Americans who oppose reform are that immigrants will take their jobs, drive down wages, increase criminal activity, burden the welfare system, and reshape the cultural dynamic of the country. These concerns are mostly ill-founded. The legitimate concerns have real solutions, and a more open immigration policy will be a net benefit for all Americans...

Highlights from Article:

- A 2013 study by the American Action Forum states that "immigration reform can raise population growth, labor force growth, and thus growth in Gross Domestic Product (GDP).”

- In 2013 the Bipartisan Policy Center came to similar conclusions. It makes the prediction that current provisions, as included in the Senate Bill, would raise GDP 4.8 percent over twenty years.

- According to the Immigration Policy Center, immigrant males between the ages of 18 and 39 (which constitute the greatest portion of the prison population) are five times less likely to be incarcerated than are natives.

- A 2011 survey by the Pew Research Center revealed that 92 percent of second generation and 96 percent of third generation Hispanics speak English proficiently.

- A 2010 Gallup poll revealed that Hispanics attend church services more often than non-Hispanic whites.

- Since an influx of immigrants means an expansion of the labor supply, many assert that the result will be less jobs and lower wages. However, as asserted by Jason Riley, a member of the Wall Street Journal editorial board, “The number of jobs in the United States is not static. It’s fluid, which is how we want it to be.”

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To: Monkey Face; Cyber Liberty

Remember in “Lawrence of Arabia,” they put their faces on the rails to sense the vibrations, so they’d know when to trigger the explosives to blow up the Turks.

Obviously the rails weren’t electricified.


2,581 posted on 01/31/2014 4:08:08 PM PST by Tax-chick (... for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead ...)
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To: Tax-chick

It’s a wonder they didn’t burn the sides of their faces off...we’re talking Saudi Arabia, here: The DESERT!!! It’s HOT there! LOL!


2,582 posted on 01/31/2014 4:10:19 PM PST by Monkey Face (Getting old sucks. I used to wake up feeling like a million bucks. Now I feel like a bounced check.)
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To: Monkey Face

Maybe the film crew cooled the rails before Peter O’Toole got near with his delicate complexion ;-)l.


2,583 posted on 01/31/2014 4:11:08 PM PST by Tax-chick (... for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead ...)
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To: Tax-chick

I imagine a thing like that would sting a little.


2,584 posted on 01/31/2014 4:14:50 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Tax-chick

LOL! Either that, or it was a 5’ length that was cooled in the shade!


2,585 posted on 01/31/2014 4:18:50 PM PST by Monkey Face (Getting old sucks. I used to wake up feeling like a million bucks. Now I feel like a bounced check.)
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To: Monkey Face

They probably had ice on the set.


2,586 posted on 01/31/2014 4:50:27 PM PST by Tax-chick (... for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead ...)
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To: Darksheare

Condolences for you all, Darks.


2,587 posted on 01/31/2014 4:56:08 PM PST by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: Tax-chick

No doubt! And A/C trailers! LOL!


2,588 posted on 01/31/2014 4:56:29 PM PST by Monkey Face (Getting old sucks. I used to wake up feeling like a million bucks. Now I feel like a bounced check.)
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To: Monkey Face

You could try, it would depend on how good your backups are.

If all else fails, give me some more detail and I’ll see if I can fish around for what you might have been using...

By detail, mouse type/manufacturer, pc type, operating system...


2,589 posted on 01/31/2014 6:45:23 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I had things to do online, so I just restored. It has turned out to be the answer, as I don’t have to worry about the nasty things that tried to insinuate themselves into my hard drive.

Thanks for your help. I apologize for always asking you first...you are WAY too smart and extremely BUSY. *blush*


2,590 posted on 01/31/2014 7:00:28 PM PST by Monkey Face (Getting old sucks. I used to wake up feeling like a million bucks. Now I feel like a bounced check.)
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To: GeronL
2GB should definitely be enough for most of them

Well... I looked and it's 1 gig instead of 2.. (2 512 sticks - i thought it had more than that..)

does the disc drive spin when you boot the machine?

Yes. Boot order is floppy, cd, then hard drive. It actually starts to load and just seizes up. I'd need to look at it again to see at what point, but I get screen display that it's loading Linux and tells me it's Mint 16. Then it gets to a point where nothing happens and I'm stuck looking at a really funky looking screen display.. Your thought that it's running out of headroom sounds plausible. I guess I'll need to do some research here, first to find if 1G is enough for Mint 16 32bit...

2,591 posted on 01/31/2014 7:21:46 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz; ShadowAce

All the Linux Mint 16 distro’s aI have read about are 64-bit and are all more than a GB in size. I guess I should dig around for some 32-bit ones and see if they are smaller.


2,592 posted on 01/31/2014 7:25:05 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: NoCmpromiz

http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=143

Linux Mint 16 32-bit versions

Cinnamon is 1.1 GB

NATE desktop is 1.2 GB

KDE desktop is 1.3 GB

Xfce desktop is 1.1 GB


2,593 posted on 01/31/2014 7:36:43 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: NoCmpromiz
You also need some RAM to do things besides run an OS. Remember to look for a distribution release and not a development release (test version, probably with many bugs)

........

For instance:
Quirky Linux is a variant of Puppy Linux (called a Pupplet) is about 160 MB.. so what is quirky about Quirky? A black and white desktop maybe?

http://bkhome.org/quirky/

................

Tiny Core Linux 5.2 chimes in at just 72 MB.

I haven't used these distro's. I doubt they are as smooth or as functional as my Ubuntu. I did try out a bunch of other distro's and found them lacking.

Others have their own opinions of course.

2,594 posted on 01/31/2014 7:47:05 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
That's the size of the iso image. Does it also need that much to run it off the DVD?

I'm wading through the Mint forum right now. Have found so far that you need 512k to run Mint13/Cinnamon and the download iso is 817 meg. Think I'll start there and see if it runs off DVD, and work up. With the chunk that the video on that laptop takes out of the available ram, I'm at around 948 meg available out of the 1 gig. Also checked and according to HP, 1 gig is maxed out on that unit so no option to add more. Downloading the iso 'as we speak'... ;-)

A little further digging and I find that Mint versions above Mint13 require a PAE enabled processor and that if you try to run it on a cpu without PAE, you will get a flag (which I didn't get.) Supposedly AMD Athlons are PAE enabled so that shouldn't be an issue here. Mint16, 15, and 14 also need 512k (1g optimal) to work well if installed. I am not seeing anywhere (yet) about what is needed to run it off DVD, but I would bet on that upper end figure.

In thinking back, running out of overhead seems to be what happens, because the display goes bonkers, tending to indicate that the ram is getting overwritten, and I would bet that to run it live it wants to load all the libs into ram. If one of the smaller footprint versions runs off the liveDVD, it will prove the point. Mint 13 has the advantage of being the LTS version (but I kind of like the improvements they made in the desktop with v16..) It does seem that any of these versions should run ok if I do an install because all the library stuff will be on hard disk instead of in ram, but I want to get something running off the DVD first to see what issues with drivers and such there might be before I commit to an install..;-)

2,595 posted on 01/31/2014 11:25:40 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

I think the whole iso does need to run in RAM, then again, you could always get a USB. I think USB’s do better for some reason. Maybe because it is like a small hdd


2,596 posted on 02/01/2014 12:02:25 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
I think the whole iso does need to run in RAM,

Pretty sure that is it. I could get 13 to run (iso size 817 m) and 15 sort-of ran, but tripped up when it switched to desktop (928 m iso). Somewhere around here in an external case is the original 40gig hd out of this laptop (5400rpm - I changed to a 60 gig 7200 rpm hd when I put XP pro on it). I think I'll see what I have stashed on that drive and if not worth keeping, I'll toss it back in the laptop and try to install one of these Mints on it.. That way all I have to do to recover is put the drive with windoze back in the box..

Calling it quits for now!

2,597 posted on 02/01/2014 2:08:47 AM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Good morning!


2,598 posted on 02/01/2014 2:49:30 AM PST by Tax-chick (... for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead ...)
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To: Tax-chick; fanfan; ColdOne; Cyber Liberty; null and void; Anoreth; Monkey Face; NicknamedBob; ...

2,599 posted on 02/01/2014 2:51:40 AM PST by Tax-chick (... for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead ...)
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To: Tax-chick

Good Morning! We must be experiencing a heat wave here. I’m seeing evidence of liquid water in the external world.


2,600 posted on 02/01/2014 5:29:05 AM PST by NicknamedBob (My cleverness often has to be severely constrained in order to fit in a tagl)
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