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Dispelling Myths: The Case for Immigration Reform [Enjoy your made-in-America ZOT, troll]
Red Dirt Report ^ | 12/27/2013 | Brian Woodward

Posted on 12/27/2013 11:24:17 AM PST by honestabe010

In his press conference on December 20th, President Obama urged the House of Representatives to support the Senate’s immigration bill, which passed 68-32 in late June. Among the concerns cited by Americans who oppose reform are that immigrants will take their jobs, drive down wages, increase criminal activity, burden the welfare system, and reshape the cultural dynamic of the country. These concerns are mostly ill-founded. The legitimate concerns have real solutions, and a more open immigration policy will be a net benefit for all Americans...

Highlights from Article:

- A 2013 study by the American Action Forum states that "immigration reform can raise population growth, labor force growth, and thus growth in Gross Domestic Product (GDP).”

- In 2013 the Bipartisan Policy Center came to similar conclusions. It makes the prediction that current provisions, as included in the Senate Bill, would raise GDP 4.8 percent over twenty years.

- According to the Immigration Policy Center, immigrant males between the ages of 18 and 39 (which constitute the greatest portion of the prison population) are five times less likely to be incarcerated than are natives.

- A 2011 survey by the Pew Research Center revealed that 92 percent of second generation and 96 percent of third generation Hispanics speak English proficiently.

- A 2010 Gallup poll revealed that Hispanics attend church services more often than non-Hispanic whites.

- Since an influx of immigrants means an expansion of the labor supply, many assert that the result will be less jobs and lower wages. However, as asserted by Jason Riley, a member of the Wall Street Journal editorial board, “The number of jobs in the United States is not static. It’s fluid, which is how we want it to be.”

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To: Dead Corpse

LOL!


2,521 posted on 01/30/2014 11:55:49 AM PST by Monkey Face (Getting old sucks. I used to wake up feeling like a million bucks. Now I feel like a bounced check.)
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To: Tax-chick

I’m waiting for the mailman...(who currently exists as a woman)

I’m already tired of the wind, and it’s only just noon. *sigh*

My SiL was supposed to come and put a latch on the gate, but I have no clue when that will be. In the meantime, the gate is sagging, so yesterday, I decided to put a castor on the front edge. If I have enough money on payday, I will get the castor and a latch so that the wind can’t blow it open.

As long as said Son-in-Law is absentee, I will do what I always do: depend on ME!


2,522 posted on 01/30/2014 12:05:10 PM PST by Monkey Face (Getting old sucks. I used to wake up feeling like a million bucks. Now I feel like a bounced check.)
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To: Monkey Face
I’m waiting for the mailman...(who currently exists as a woman)

Please...in the name of all things Holy...don't post a picture of that! :^D

2,523 posted on 01/30/2014 12:10:40 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty; Monkey Face

It was a punishment from the Elder Gods.


2,524 posted on 01/30/2014 12:59:42 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Monkey Face

*sigh*

They wouldn’t give me the shingles vaccine without a prescription. I called Dr. Hall’s office, and they’ll call the pharmacy.
“But your insurance won’t pay for it.”
“I don’t care, I’ll pay.”
“But they don’t recommend it unless you’re over 60.”
“Dr. Hall said he’d give it to me.”
“Well, okay.


2,525 posted on 01/30/2014 1:01:34 PM PST by Tax-chick (... for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead ...)
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To: Cyber Liberty

OH...no...sorry...wrong image...

I said, “MailMAN” but she is actually a “mailwoman,” or in PC lingo, “mail carrier.” (STUPID!)

(The first female mail carrier I ever saw was in Germany, in 1969!)


2,526 posted on 01/30/2014 1:12:23 PM PST by Monkey Face (Getting old sucks. I used to wake up feeling like a million bucks. Now I feel like a bounced check.)
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To: Tax-chick

Sound like they wouldn’t give you the vaccine without an ARGUMENT, not a prescription!

You can’t afford to have shingles! My late sister-in-law/5th cousin once removed had them a few years ago and she was almost paralyzed by the pain. The only thing that helped was witch hazel, and she felt she should own stock in the cheapest brand!

My mother would have a mild outbreak at times, but I was so young, I have no idea how she dealt with it.


2,527 posted on 01/30/2014 1:16:05 PM PST by Monkey Face (Getting old sucks. I used to wake up feeling like a million bucks. Now I feel like a bounced check.)
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To: Monkey Face

Well, it seems like, if you’re more likely to have shingles after age 60, you’d want to get the vaccine before that. Anyway, everyone in my prayer group except Lisa and me has had it, and none of them was 60 at the time.

I can’t afford to have anything that doesn’t kill me quick, like a semi-truck.

I put gas in the car for Bill. He’ll have to drive it through a car wash after we get the rain we’re supposed to have over the weekend.


2,528 posted on 01/30/2014 1:19:41 PM PST by Tax-chick (... for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead ...)
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To: Tax-chick

I don’t know if I want the vaccine. CFIDS is so insidious, I may actually contract the disease from the shot. My immune system is “up-regulated” which means it’s working overtime.

Which is why I have such a hard time with meds that are not natural.

But I think you are wise to get the vaccine. Will the pharmacy call you when they get the authorization?


2,529 posted on 01/30/2014 1:25:45 PM PST by Monkey Face (Getting old sucks. I used to wake up feeling like a million bucks. Now I feel like a bounced check.)
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To: Monkey Face

Dr. Hall’s office will call when they’ve phoned or faxed the prescription.


2,530 posted on 01/30/2014 1:28:13 PM PST by Tax-chick (... for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead ...)
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To: Tax-chick

Good deal!

When the wind blew my gate open, it also blew in some leaves. This is probably the last batch of leaves we will get off the trees before Spring. One of the reasons for the gate was to keep the leaves from piling up on the inside of the patio fence, since the entrance faces southeast...and that’s where the deciduous trees are...


2,531 posted on 01/30/2014 1:37:19 PM PST by Monkey Face (Getting old sucks. I used to wake up feeling like a million bucks. Now I feel like a bounced check.)
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To: Monkey Face

Well, Sally was on the phone with her friends, so I’ll call the pharmacy sometime tomorrow to see if they received the prescription.

Now it’s time for Kathleen’s bath.


2,532 posted on 01/30/2014 3:34:05 PM PST by Tax-chick (... for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead ...)
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To: Darksheare; Monkey Face; null and void; GeronL; Darkchylde
You guys are deep!

All I got in regards to Dreams is this.

There once was a man from Peru

who dreamt he was eating his shoe

who woke with a fright

to see that his dream had come true.

2,533 posted on 01/30/2014 5:46:45 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion; Monkey Face; null and void; GeronL; Darkchylde; Lakeshark

Bad you are, and twisted, too!
His anthem played on a kazoo.
Tried to invade Kalamazoo!
Give an inch, he’ll invade you too!

/ end horrid writ by me.
I am the king of drek.
And weirdness.
Me, deep?
Naah.
More like a pothole of thought.


2,534 posted on 01/30/2014 6:44:28 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Darksheare; Monkey Face; null and void; GeronL; Darkchylde; Lakeshark
That's All I got...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG19g9oiF-w


2,535 posted on 01/30/2014 7:12:10 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

lol


2,536 posted on 01/30/2014 7:21:28 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL; KC_Lion
Well that explains it then.

Why my laptop bricked that is...

See, HP had a series of laptops using NVidia chipsets and video cards. But there was a minor design flaw. Or two.. HP did not provide sufficient cooling for the innards of the laptop and NVidia made a series of faulty chips - both video and chipset - that just happened to melt.

If you were into playing video intensive games on one of these laptops, it quickly became a doorstop, sometimes but not all the time while it was still under warranty. If you did not make a habit of abusing the heat dissipation characteristics of the device and its internals, the unit might survive for a while. Like years. Long enough for you to rebrain the device into a Win7 machine and bury its original pileofcrap op-sys, otherwise known as Vista in a zombie escape-resistant crypt. Of course, by that time warranty would have been expired for time measured in years..

But the fine print engraved (using the same microprint device that the Fed uses to print all those new dollars) on the laptop motherboard says that on the night that a Peruvian shoe is eaten by its owner, all the magic glue holding its innards together will let loose and you will suddenly own a widescreen... brick..

Video is still ok, bios does not see a hard drive. I can boot into Linux from a DVD and have complete video, but Linux didn't see a hard drive either. Hard drive is recognized in my other laptop (I just didn't let it try to boot so Windoze wouldn't load the drivers for the other unit and mess things up) so the hard drive is ok. On-line forums suggested resetting BIOS to defaults (didn't work), removing the DVD (didn't work), letting it sit for awhile and maybe it will come back to life (didn't work), and replacing the mobo...

HP wants more for a replacement mobo than I paid for the laptop (off EBay) initially. Found a lot of used mobo's on EBay - many of which will still have the same possible flaw, found quite a few places that say they will repair the mobo - and install better heat removing features - if I send it to them, and - found one place that says they have the bottom part of the laptop (minus lid with screen, keyboard, battery, and drives.) In other words, the shell with the mobo, cpu, and heatsink inside. AND, they say that the heat-removing modifications have been made and this mobo is tested - and the guy does have 100% positive feediebacks.

Since it is a lot less work to swap keyboard, lid/video display, and toss my battery, DVD and hard drive into a different shell than it is to dismantle the thing and ship just the mobo off to Keokuk (and hope that in the time interval the White-Furbeast-with-no-tail-to-tell doesn't 'help' by rearranging all the dismantled parts) I'm leaning on pursuing that angle.

Price wise, it's a wash between repair + shipping, and buying this bottom half of a laptop (with free shipping..) Gonna sleep on that decision..

Then I should be good until the next time a Peruvian shoe gets eaten by its owner...

Or I break down and get a new(er) laptop without WinATE on it... ;-)

2,537 posted on 01/30/2014 9:14:24 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

wow.

That is a mess. Sounds like buying a computer might be easier.


2,538 posted on 01/30/2014 11:21:20 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
Sounds like buying a computer might be easier.

Would be if it was in the budget. I have two desk top units in various stages of construction and if I buy anything more new Mrs. NoC will probably assault me with the package when it arrives.. ;-)

I have three laptops of which the one under discussion was the newest both chronologically and as to op sys. I knew of the possible problem when I bought it (at a very good price) and until now it has been reliable. I looked into replacing it with a more up to date unit and did find some at good prices - and almost bought one thinking I would just swap the hard drive in and maintain all the programs and Win7 install. Then at some obscene hour last am (like about 24 hours ago) it dawned on me that the Win7 install on the troubled unit was a 32 bit install, and my 32 bit copy of MS Orifice Pro was on there and the way they have done MS orifice 13 retail is that it is tied to the machine and if it didn't like what I did I would need to procure (that$ $pelled "buy") another copy of M$ Orifice Pro - you know, the not-so-cheap version..

So I shelved the thought of upgrading to a newer bigger better laptop and started investigating what it would take to get this one back up and running for the least amount of hassle on my part and the least outlay of funds for parts.

In looking through the various rebuild options, most require that I dismantle the machine and ship them the mother board. Those are the least expensive options. Dismantling the machine has some risks on this end due to a mobile mass of white fur with no-tail-to-tell that could put the loose parts away into very far corners of the room for safe keeping - so safe that I would never find them.. My problem is not with the ability to dismantle the laptop, but in the possible consequences of it remaining dismantled for about two weeks while I herd cat(s).. For that reason, this approach is the least desirable although most cost effective (engineer speak for "cheaper"..)

The remaining 'repair the mobo' option involved me packing the unit off to the repair shop intact and they would disassemble the laptop (for a small additional fee - $60), repair the mobo, install the proper heat dissipating devices, reassemble the laptop, test, and return. That would remove the problem of needing to herd cat(s) away from the table, but I'm not all that comfortable with sending my laptop with a hard drive full of data off to someone I never met, no matter how good a positive rating he has on EBay.

The final option, buying the 'bottom' half of the laptop (with a tested mobo, already installed processor which is the same as what is in mine, heatsink and fan, and with the heat-fix applied to the chipset(s) and then swapping over my hard drive, DVD, battery, memory, and lid/display when it gets here (which won't have parts lying around for two or so weeks that I have to babysit to protect from a Catcritter) seems like the better deal. And cost wise, it comes in at $5 less than the ship-the-laptop-out repair option with less hassle on my part since I don't need to dig up bubble plastic, inedible plastic afterdinner mints, er, shipping chips, a box, and a trip to UPS/USPS..

But like I said, that seems to be the best option with all factors considered, but I'll sleep on it..

Now, after going through all of that, if I remember correctly, you are running Linux of some flavor. At this point, it seems that the fate of my oldest laptop is to become a Linux box. The hardware is too ancient for it to be of much use if I could get it to run on Win7 (which I'm sure I could do, but it wouldn't be practical.) I still have a couple of months before MS kills off WinXP so I figured I'd play with a distro of the penguin on it. But... when I put my Linux DVD into it and tried to boot to the 'live' version of Linux, it wouldn't go. I've never had a problem getting the 'live DVD' to boot on any other unit.

Do you have any experience with that end of Linux? Is there something else I should check (yes, I used the 32 bit version, this laptop is not a 64 bit processor) or am I destined to wade through a bunch of Lnx forums looking for a solution? Any ideas?

2,539 posted on 01/31/2014 12:44:34 AM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz; fanfan; ColdOne; Cyber Liberty; null and void; Tax-chick; Anoreth; Monkey Face; ...

2,540 posted on 01/31/2014 2:50:44 AM PST by Tax-chick (... for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead ...)
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