Whistle Blower Claims She Forged Obama’s Birth Certificate, Guess Who It Is?

The Liberty Digest ^ | Dec 26, 2013 | William Wallace

[Fawn]

It is important to note that the only person to “see” and authenticate the long form birth certificate of one President Barrack H. Obama is now dead in a plane crash. Even more controversial is the one that they submitted as truth on the Whitehouse.gov website is 10 layered in Photo Shop and thought to be fake. The conspiracy never seems to die.

Now a whistle blower comes forward and claims she forged Obama’s birth certificate in 1985. She doesn’t just claim that she did the long form, but the short form as well. Both those claims if proven are enough to make people worry about who really is our President.

Funny how this person is not only a family member but also insists she did it for the drug cartels in Mexico. Fast and Furious and the Federal Court ruling to include drugs and child smuggling make more sense now.

[Fred Nerks]

If Ann Obama and the kenyan student had a baby in Hawaii in 1961, and the kenyan wrote home about it just as Aunt Zeituni who was a girl at the time living in the village, remembered, then that is the child named after his father who Mary babysat in January for Anna Obama and whose name appears on the Hawaii birth index.
There was a Mr and Mrs Obama who had a child. But when that child was conceived, Stanley Ann Dunham was still in high school (somewhere) and she didn’t show up with zero in Hawaii until she enrolled at the U of HI in the Spring of 1963, and had her photo taken with the boy on a visit to the zoo...
No one can say who he was living with, the employees at the Bank where Madelyn worked had no idea she had a grandson until 1970/71 when he was enrolled at Punahou. He himself maintained early on in an interview whilst at Harvard that he moved to Indonesia when he was two years of age...
Stanley Ann Dunham didn’t have a son until she was granted custody in March 1964 as the result of her ‘divorce’ from a man there’s no evidence she even knew until 1970.
Let go of the ‘Dreams’ narrative, it’s a work of fiction. What you have is the blending of two women into one ‘mother’ and zero, whose mother you do not know, becoming in name only, the child of the kenyan and his wife, from whom the kenyan became separated when she moved to the Philippines.

[Fred Nerks]

Mark, who supplied these images, has identified himself as the child in the centre phtograph. Quite obviously, that's Ruth holding Mark in the photographs on the left and right.

Mark was born during the year after Ruth arrived in Kenya in late 1964. The older boy appears to be about five years of age.

I'll have to let you figure out who the two little boys might be, one maybe just a few months older than the other.

[Nero Germanicus]

Barack Hussein Obama Senior acknowledged paternity of Barack Hussein Obama II and obviously named (”USC”) United States citizen Stanley Ann Dunham as the mother on August 31, 1961 to Immigration and Naturalization Service Agent William L. Woods in a Student Visa extension interview.
The memo states that the baby was living with the mother and grandparents. The Woods memo was released under a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request in 2011.
http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/07/INS-6.jpg

Additionally, the 1960-1965 Hawaii Index of Public Marriages lists both the Barack Obama and Lolo Soetoro marriages to Stanley Ann Dunham and the Obama-Dunham Divorce decree lists February 2, 1961 as the date of the Obama-Dunham marriage on the Island of Maui in the City of Kahalui.

My guess is that there was a shotgun marriage of convenience to a pregnant 18 year old freshman at the University of Hawaii that Obama Senior tried unsuccessfully to use to stay in the U.S. in order to complete his Ph.D. at Harvard.

[Fred Nerks]

Awwww...really? How convenient. Now go back to your script.

[Fred Nerks]

The ‘Woods Memo’ states ‘they have one child born 8/4/1961...’

Right. And as I see it, it’s simply the follow-on from bc number 41 being binned with the name of the Sunahara child, and BHO2 being substituted - which gave rise to the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspapers.

The USC wife who plans to attend Wash State university was already in Seattle listed as Anna Obama in the Polk for 1961.
She’s the girl whom Mary babysat for in January 1961.
She’s also the same USC wife from whom he later explained he was separated who moved to the Philippines...the girl who was discussing an adoption with the Salvation Army in April 1961.

What you are trying to tell me is like trying to prove your hair is wet because it rained, without any idea where the water came from. There’s someone up there pouring it all over your head.

But thanks anyway...

[Fred Nerks]

Who is the young man with the kenyan student in a photograph evidently taken in Kenya not long before the kenyan student was killed?

He grew up, went to the Lulumba University in Moscow from the early eighties after his father died, until 1992 when he was interviewed as a 31 year old law student, and last photographed he was with the President of Equatorial Guinea in Washington DC.

..........

[Fred Nerks]

You refer to the above as a marriage index. It's nothing but a meaningless list of names.

This is what a marriage index should look like:

And this is what a Birth Index should look like, name of child, name of parents, date of birth...look on Google images for many examples. What Hawaii shows you is garbage imo.

[Fred Nerks]

Now let me make an observation/prediction. I’ve lost count of the many times I have replied to one of your obama-serving missives. What do you always do? You go to ground. You never respond, you throw your bit into the discussion and then you turn tail and run.
Only to show up the moment I post a comment on another thread on the same subject.
You’ve been nothing but a PITA since you joined in January, and that’s coming from someone who has been on FR ten years longer than you.
sniff sniff...

[Nero Germanicus]

I’m happy to respond.

Over the last seven years since February of 2007 when Barack Obama first announced that he was a candidate, have you not noticed that he has been helped and not hurt by unverifiable rumors and misinformation on the part of his political opposition? Obama has been able to exploit those errors to his advantage and make his opponents look like vindictive, racist lunatics.

It was folks who oppose Obama’s eligibility who filed the Freedom of Information Act request for his father’s immigration file. In that file was the Woods’ Immigration and Naturalization Service memo. To act like it doesn’t exist and needn’t be addressed is unwise

In this instance, Barack Obama Senior DID indeed claim paternity on August 31, 1961, along with the August 13 and August 14, 1961 “Health Bureau Statistics” sections of the Honolulu newspapers which name “Mr and Mrs. Barack Obama” as the parents of a son born on August 4th.
That data must be taken into account and it must be impeached if any challenge to Obama’s eligibility based on a claim that birth records were only created for him in the 21st century is ever to succeed.

[Fred Nerks]

...My guess is that there was a shotgun marriage of convenience to a pregnant 18 year old freshman at the University of Hawaii that Obama Senior tried unsuccessfully to use to stay in the U.S. in order to complete his Ph.D. at Harvard.

And if that were to be true, he would have shown the name of his USC wife and US born son on the extension request dated 17th August 1962, which was made AFTER he graduated from the U of HI in the summer. But by what I can see on that application, the man considered himself to be married to an unnamed woman and his son was named Roy, who is claimed to be the son of the kenyan student and his Kenyan wife Kezia. That's Malik (Roy)Abongo Obama.

[Brown Deer]

Happy New Year!
What will be his new “FReeper” ID that joins us tomorrow?

[Fred Nerks]

Thanks for the reply, I DO understand now where you are coming from. It's nothing more than the entire birth certificate controversy. A thousand people could testify it's an obvious forgery, but there it is. It exists. And by the very fact of the existence of a forgery, he remains untouchable. So what you are saying is that because there are a number of un-provenanced documents in what we are led to believe is an entire INS file, the case is closed, and all other quite obvious information to the contrary musn't be shown, talked about or otherwise raised in discussion...because it's going to make the doubting Thomasses look silly.

ok. I'm the greatx 5 granddaughter of Napoleon and as soon as I can get enough clever forgers and false witnesses to put the fake story together, I'm going to claim I'm entitled to take up the mantle of the French Emperor. That's after I've buried any evidence of my existence and my parentage, and you'll never be able to challenge me on it.

I'll get right down to it. I'll write a book 'Dreams From My GreatGrandFatherx5' - in french, of course. Anastasia has been done to death.

Thanks for the explanation btw, liars and imposters are safe and untouchable because we mustn't make ourselves look stupid. Woudn't it be a dreadful thing to end up being called a birther - when all you were trying to do was understand how your opponents fooled you into feeding a frikken cuckoo.

[Fred Nerks]

And a Happy New Year to you too...I gave it one more try, but it really is a waste of time. No one wants to look at the evidence because if they were to understand what I am trying to show them here, they might end up looking like silly birthers.
So it becomes difficult to tell the difference between an obvious obot and a well meaning conservative who both end up having the same effect.

MUSTN’T TOUCH

[Fred Nerks]

PS. You're OK, and I give up.

[rodguy911]

There is only one scenario I could eve envision where any of these Hawaiian bozos would be subpoenaed and that's if the left goes after ted Cruz's eligibility. I seriously doubt that will ever happen for obvious reasons.

[Greenperson]

“It should be easy enough to simply ask a retired Secret Service official who worked under previous presidents.”

Yes, it should be, if I knew any. Do you?

[Nero Germanicus]

The original Obama birth certificate remains in the office safe of the Hawaii state Registrar and the ORIGINAL document has never been examined to determine its authenticity. In my humble opinion the question of forgery remains open. What some people are calling a forgery is a third generation copy, digitally scanned image of a PDF of the original document.
A definitive ruling on forgery would mean forensic examination of the original document, which can be inspected under court order from a judge.

The state of Hawaii stands by the authenticity of the original and of the copies that they have officially certified and released; and Hawaii still provides a link on their state health department web site to the whitehouse.gov scanned image of the document. Hawaii has officially verified the whitehouse.gov image for a federal judge in the Obama Mississippi ballot eligibility challenge which is still pending.

Article IV of the U.S. Constitution: “Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.” That greatly complicates the process of PROVING forgery in a court of law or before Congress in the absence of an official, verifiable alternative birth record showing birth at another place and/or date.

[Nero Germanicus]

Any committee of the House of Representatives can subpoena a former Secret Service official to testify. You and I don’t need to know any personally.

[Nero Germanicus]

A congressional subpoena to testify before a committee of the House of Representatives such as the House’s primary investigative committee, Oversight and Government Reform, would do the trick.

That committee has issued subpoenas in Fast and Furious (and issued a Contempt of Congress citation for Attorney General Eric Holder), the IRS targeting of conservative/Tea Party advocacy groups, Obamacare and Benghazi, just to name a few.

[Nero Germanicus]

I take no issue at all with anyone believing whatever they want to believe. It’s proving the various alternative scenarios in a court of law or before a congressional committee that has proven elusive, whether it’s raining or sunny.