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To: Elsie
>> In what way?<<

Let’s begin with the date. It’s common knowledge that the birth of the sun god is December 25th. The original Baal the sun god.

History demonstrates that the point of departure for every major apostasy in Israel and Christendom involved the commingling of worship of the true God with worship of Baal the sun-god.

The establishment of sun-worship by King Jeroboam marked the division of the kingdom and the beginning of Israel's apostasy,

The “way of the heathen” was tied to worship of Baal the sun god. Baal simply means master and was a title of many of the gods of the pagans. I Jeremiah we see the Israelites already worshiping with the cutting of a tree.

Jeremiah 10:1 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: 2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Sun worshippers since the time of Babel recognized this time of year in honor of their gods. The worship of Tammuz, as spoken of in the book of Ezekiel, is related to December 25th. The Roman sun god Mithra was born on December 25th. Constantine anyone? Check out the festival of natalis Invicti (Birth of the Unconquerable Sun), held on 25 December

Giving of gifts during the festival of Saturnalis. The bright red berries of the holly bush represented fertility in the depths of the dormant winter. The circle of the Yule or Christmas wreath represents the pagan “Wheel of the Year” or “Circle of Life”

Do a search and study on any of those or other “Christmas traditions”.

327 posted on 12/16/2013 1:57:25 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

Great points, which all back up my opinion of Christmas. Thank you. Sorry you had to get into such debate with others over this!


328 posted on 12/16/2013 3:28:04 PM PST by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: CynicalBear
 

Let’s begin with the date. And totally ignore this scripture: 5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind.

Is there ANY day, acceptablt to you, that is not STAINED by some pagan using it?


 I Jeremiah we see the Israelites already worshiping with the cutting of a tree.  ...to get some wood to build an IDOL. 

Jeremiah 10:1 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: 2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

True believeing Jews cut down TREES to use in building their temple. 


Giving of gifts during the festival of Saturnalis. OOooooh!  GIFTS! Matthew 7:11  If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!  1 Corinthians 12:1 Brothers and sisters, I want you to know about the gifts of the Holy Spirit.


The bright red berries of the holly bush represented fertility in the depths of the dormant winter.   Oh NO!!! FERTILITY!!!   Genesis 1:28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.


The circle of the Yule or Christmas wreath represents the pagan “Wheel of the Year” or “Circle of Life”  So we can't use CIRCLES any more, either??  1 Corinthians 9:24-27  "Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may win. And everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable.

339 posted on 12/17/2013 4:58:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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