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Christmas Really Isn't about Christ - Why I'm not Celebrating Christmas Even Though I'm a Christian
Kirchhoff's Law ^ | 12-14-2013 | Mary C. Kirchhoff

Posted on 12/14/2013 2:56:27 PM PST by InHisService

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To: InHisService

Giving and sharing the gospel are done all year. But they are done even more at Christmas. Christmas is a highly visible reminder to even those who aren’t in church. It’s a reminder to even non-Christian nations about Christ.

And the pagans sacrificed humans on trees. The cut Christmas tree began in Germany and was a symbol of their break with paganism after a Christian priest cut their pagan tree down.

That kind of legalism where you are afraid of trees because once upon a time a pagan once used a tree in some form or fashion will have you so bound in knots that you’ll be afraid to do anything.

Pagans ate fish, should we avoid fish? Pagans ate meat should we avoid meat? Pagans prayed to their false Gods, should we avoid praying to the true God? Get your eyes off of pagans and back on Christ and maybe you can rediscover the spirit of Christmas.


101 posted on 12/14/2013 6:13:18 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: All

pfl


102 posted on 12/14/2013 6:20:31 PM PST by BipolarBob
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To: InHisService

Nice job..I stopped observing Christmas 12 years ago...never looked back and never regret it. Our modern Christmas is an invention of the media of the 1800’s and early 1900’s and has nothing to do with Christ.


103 posted on 12/14/2013 6:23:52 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: InHisService

XMAS can be about Christ, if like all things in life, we have faith in Him in all things and focus through faith in Him, instead of focusing on anything else, such as placing sin before Him.


104 posted on 12/14/2013 6:29:44 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: InHisService
Christmas Really Isn't about Christ - Why I'm not Celebrating Christmas Even Though I'm a Christian

Yah'shua was/is/and will always be a Torah observant Jew
as well as creator of the universe.

Why would He choose to be born on a Pagan holiday ?

More likely born on the Feast of Tabernacles.

John 1:14

14 And the Word became flesh, and tabernacled
among us, and we saw His glory,
glory as of the only begotten
from the Father, full of grace and truth.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
105 posted on 12/14/2013 6:30:06 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: InHisService

I haven’t read the comments yet but I’m guessing I’ll see vitriol and snark. Not once will we see scriptural support or teaching from the apostles to celebrate the same day pagans do or even celebrate the birth of Christ at all.


106 posted on 12/14/2013 6:49:45 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: InHisService
"I hope people will realize what Christmas has become.

You can't drive down the road without nativity scenes being seen. Christ is proclaimed even on secular radio stations and secular TV stations. It's proclaimed in the movies. It's proclaimed in the retail outlets.

I went to the dollar store today. There were nativity scenes. There were bibles. There were Christmas boxes with gospel scenes on them. There was wrapping paper proclaiming scripture.

The Rockettes are putting on a Christmas show downtown, with a full live nativity scene telling the story of Jesus.

There is a production of Handel's Messiah. In fact the event calendars for Nashville are filled with Christmas programs most of which will proclaim Christ in one way or another.

If you can celebrate Christmas in a way that avoids Christ, then you probably shouldn't be celebrating it. The rest of us celebrate Christ at Christmas. We also celebrate friends and family, which Christ would have us do.

107 posted on 12/14/2013 6:59:53 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: narses

I’m at the point where I care about both. And I refuse to be guilted out of it. Blessed Advent, merry Christmas and a happy 2014, everybody.


108 posted on 12/14/2013 7:03:25 PM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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To: InHisService

“Christmas has become completely distorted and perverted and what is supposed to be a day to honor Jesus has become a two-month long season of out-of-control shopping and spending, overindulgence of food and drink, massive debt and spoiled children.

Christmas, without a doubt, belongs to retailers, not to Jesus. The season begins around late October, and is in full swing right before Thanksgiving, and goes on til New Years.”


That much is true.


109 posted on 12/14/2013 7:22:15 PM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: InHisService
Why strive to help others and give to others only at Christmas? That should be done year round. All those things you mentioned are wonderful. But it doesn’t negate the fact that Christmas has been hijacked by retailers. I’m not buying into what the atheists say, I happen to believe they are right on this point.

You paint such a bleak picture of humankind. You did not respond to my earlier response to you about your statement that only one or two kids under 14, out of 20, would know that Christmas was about Jesus.

That is false, in my experience.

Now you state that Christians only help and give to others during the Christmas season. That is patently false.

I ask you again as I did in my last post to you - Do your surroundings make you bitter?

Retail, Schmetail. Christmas is only hijacked by retailers if you allow it to be IN YOUR HEART. If I want to bestow a little gift of thanks to someone who is important in my life, and it brings them joy, it is my business. There is a special lady that pays extra attention to my mom in her assisted living home. She isn't paid too well, but we are giving her a gift card for dinner for her and her husband at the best place in town. I know it will make her happy and that makes all of our hearts glad. The things she has done for mom are without expectation.

She will not be forgotten the other 364 days. Or strangers that need a hand up or the charities we give to throughout the year. Christmas is not just one day, but it is the day we celebrate His birth, let loose with feasting and cherish our loved ones.

You have chosen your viewpoint, which in my opinion is negativity. There is much fun to be had opening the gifts under the tree, but the joy and love of family and friends comes from God and the ultimate gift of His Son. We celebrate Him and are thankful for our blessings!

110 posted on 12/14/2013 7:29:21 PM PST by mplsconservative (Barack Hussein 0bama has American blood on HIS hands!)
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To: Arlis

Once the Church came out from the catacombs, it became acceptable to REMEMBER the Lord’s birth.


111 posted on 12/14/2013 7:33:08 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Rashputin

You said it best.


112 posted on 12/14/2013 7:34:41 PM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: DouglasKC

Mostly I am burned out with all the endless crass commercialization, the same Christmas music never stopping, the same specials on TV, and being run around to one meaningless event after another which never changes from year to year to keep the SO happy.


113 posted on 12/14/2013 7:48:01 PM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Therapsid

I’ll take that


114 posted on 12/14/2013 7:49:25 PM PST by Nifster
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To: darkangel82

agreed


115 posted on 12/14/2013 7:49:52 PM PST by Nifster
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To: InHisService

I go to Taco Bell now and then. The music recently was Christmas carols. Not songs about Santa and sleigh bells, but actual songs about Jesus Christ. Amazing.

It all depends on how you celebrate. Being a Catholic, I celebrate the Season of Advent. Christmas begins with the Vigil of the Nativity, the night of December 24th, and continues for 12 days.

Since Advent and Christmas are part of the Church’s liturgical year, I obviously don’t believe I have the option of not celebrating these. But each person has the power to overthrow the domination of the whole season by profiteers.


116 posted on 12/14/2013 7:53:39 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: InHisService; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; Greetings_Puny_Humans; ...
You are correct, as while it must first be said that this does not mean you have a better heart than those who do, yet it inconsistent with classic Protestant faith and the supremacy of Scripture over traditions of men, and who were set free to worship God in spirit and in truth, to yearly bow down as to a what is basically a religious day of obligation, but which does not comes from Scripture or even early tradition, but Catholicism.

While it will be protested that observing the season and day of Christmass is not obligatory, the reality is that Christmas is basically overall treated and defended by even Protestants as such.

A pastor may pray about what ot preach 11 months out the year, but come December it is a given that he must preach Christmas, else the people will stone him. Well, not quite, however, hardly any member of any church can expect to go anywhere in ministry if he does not join in the yearly observance of Christmas, and will be suspiciously looked upon and often maligned as a fringe Christian if he does not, and as likely being some sort of legalist and or a Scrooge.

Yet it is actually those who basically make the yearly observance of Christ obligatory that are engaging in legalism, as this yearly observance certainly is not seen or commanded in Scripture, and which even censures the ritualistic religious observance of "days, months, times and years," (Gal. 4:10) as concomitant with religion under the Old covenant.

And rather than an anti-celebratory Scrooge, not celebrating Christmas means one is set free from basically having to observe this Roman holyday in order to worship God as the Spirit leads, which can include celebrating the birth of Christ anything, such as in the Fall or Spring when He likely was born. But how radical that would be!

It simply is not the nature of the New Covenant to fall into annual feast days, nor fall into religious syncretism.

We wonder why the world loves Christmas, and how hard it is put Christ back into it, but the answer is that He did not belong in it in the first place, but while this yearly winter feast was not seen in Scripture, a distinctly pagan feast was partly "Christianized" as part of the religious syncretism of Rome.

While we (sadly) do recognize pagan deities as marks of references as in the days of the week (and which i am sure will not be used during the Millennium), this is not that of Christianizing uniquely pagan celebrations. And in making worship in spirit and in truth, God does not need help from distinctively pagan celebrations, and thus does not engage in reforming paganism but in making new creations. And in which that which is religiously of the world is to be crucified.

And if it is not, then it was reemerge even if in religious form. And which was was occurred with Christmas. Rather than being left to die, it was Christianized, like as the high places of the OT were, and thus they were perpetuated to more easily revert back to their pagan forms.

Instead, make we seek to be led of the Lord in our worship, not in annual days and set liturgical feasts, the 1st day of the week being the only specific day the NT church worshiped one (not there's a debate). Even how often the commemoration of the Lord's death is to take place is not commanded, but is "as often as you do this." Want to celebrate the Lord's birth, do it as the Lord leads anytime, but do not try to convince me it is on the same day every year as a pagan feast you are Christianizing.

But this extends into other areas. Is your liturgy the same predictable ritual every week, fostering perfunctory professions? Or so the clock is the supreme authority? Did you ever take part in a Christian service (outside of the business meeting) in which every one could have something edifying to share from the Lord, as in 1Cor. 14?

Would your evangelical church (the only kind that is a church) even consider changing the place or time of meeting in order to outreach at a parade or event? Or is it so sacrosanct that hardly anything could change it?

117 posted on 12/14/2013 8:02:56 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: jocon307

I have always hated “Yes, Virginia, There Is a Santa Claus.”

It asserts that believing something makes it true.

Bah!


118 posted on 12/14/2013 8:03:37 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: InHisService

Okay. So you chose not to celebrate Christmas. Why beat your chest and show your pride about it. I feel there is a lot less humility in your post than there is pride. You’re kind of like those guys who decide to not visit Free Republic anymore, then write a long vanity about how stupid we are for not appreciating him, or her.


119 posted on 12/14/2013 8:05:03 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: InHisService

Christmas is that one day of the Church Year when Christians focus upon the fact that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. The particular date of the Savior’s birth is far less important than the fact. We are perfectly free to coopt every pagan tradition and every substance in honor and celebration of the Christ, the crucified and risen One, who for our sakes came down to redeem all flesh from sin and death, because it is the Creator of all Who saw fit to make peace though the atoning blood of this Flesh like ours.

Far be it from me to let atheists and pagans tell me how to celebrate Christmas, whether it means spending or not. Rudolph, Santa Claus, Christmas trees, lights, mistletoe, joy, feasting: bring it! Bring it all!!

At the same time, I happily respect another Christian’s decision to treat they day like any other, because in Christ all of creation and all of history is made right despite ourselves, and the devil’s hoards are sent fleeing while all believers rejoice in sweet, eternal victory.


120 posted on 12/14/2013 8:05:15 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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