Posted on 12/14/2013 5:41:53 AM PST by marktwain
| Even a small gun can deter attack |
An act relating to defense of life, home, andThe bill appears to be modeled on the Arizona law. It is commonsense legislation designed to promote safety.
3 property; creating s. 776.001, F.S.; providing
4 legislative finding and intent; providing that the
5 defensive display of a weapon or firearm, including
6 the discharge of a firearm for the purpose of a
7 warning shot, does not constitute the use of deadly
8 force; providing immunity from prosecution for persons
9 acting in defense of life, home, and property from
10 violent attack or the threat of violent attack through
11 certain displays of or uses of force; creating s.
12 776.0011, F.S.; providing definitions; creating s.
13 776.033, F.S.; providing for the justifiable defensive
14 display of a firearm or weapon in certain
15 circumstances; amending s. 776.06, F.S.; limiting a
16 provision authorizing use of deadly force by law
17 enforcement or correctional officers; creating s.
18 775.0878, F.S.; providing an exemption from minimum
19 sentence requirements related to use of a weapon or
20 firearm for persons acting in self-defense or defense
21 of others; authorizing a departure from minimum
22 sentence requirements related to use of a weapon or
23 firearm for persons convicted of certain offenses who
24 meet specified requirements; providing an effective
25 date.
I disagree FRiend.
I really think that when you uncover you put the other party in fear of their lives and they may make a desperate attack.
Either you are under imminent threat or you are the imminent threat.
Prior to that only words should be used.
Brandishing is a bad idea.
You gonna Choot? Choot! Don’t Talk!
“You gonna Choot? Choot! Don’t Talk!”
I thought it was:
“When its time to shoot, shoot! Don’t talk!”
Either way, I love that line from the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. I have often used it in my CCW classes.
I will not convince you, but you might consider talking to police officers. They draw far more often than they shoot.
Bluffing is generally only a good idea if you are at the disadvantage.
Well, no one wants to shoot anyone, but I want you to know that the second you uncover the dynamics can change radically, so you had better be prepared to shoot.
Under the law, you can’t just THINK you were being threatened.
You have to BE threatened before you threaten the other party.
You had better be sure of your situation, because trouble is sure to follow even if you are justified.
“Well, no one wants to shoot anyone, but I want you to know that the second you uncover the dynamics can change radically, so you had better be prepared to shoot.”
We can absolutely agree on that. Being prepared to shoot is essential. Drawing to “bluff” without being willing to shoot is asking to have them disarm you.
Some ahole in Tx is trying to change the laws so that Cops can’t use deadly force.
They want them to use disabling shots rather than center mass.
If it comes to the point of drawing a gun you need to choot, 2 dead center.
What does Masood Ayub say?
“Under the law, you can’t just THINK you were being threatened.
You have to BE threatened before you threaten the other party.
You had better be sure of your situation, because trouble is sure to follow even if you are justified.”
Close, but there is a bit more to it. You have to believe, as a reasonable person, that you are under threat of life or bodily integrity. Just because you are not is not nearly as important as reasonably believing that you were.
This is why it is justified to shoot people with realistic replicas that act as if they are threatening to shoot you. A reasonable person could not tell the difference, so a reasonable person would assume the “gun” was real, and act accordingly.
He says that “shooting to wound” does not make any sense. Shooting someone is always a deadly threat to their life.
Shooting to disable is for those who watch too much TV.
That is my point.
Once you uncover, things become deadly.
I would never uncover unless I already knew things were deadly.
You may talk someone down by showing potential deadly force, but you are likely to get a desperate attempt to disarm and kill you at that point.
It is better to have a chin wag over a beer than over a gun.
“Why ?”
Why do I own a North American .22 magnum? Or, why does it misfire? I own the gun because I was looking for something small to carry. It’s horribly difficult to hold as it’s WAY too small for my hand. I also can’t hold it well enough to point it.
As to why does it misfire? I have no idea. I’m guessing it’s the ammo. But what .22 ammo is reliable enough to carry in a gun for years unfired?
I’ve since bought a .380 S&W bodyguard, which is small enough for my pocket and discrete in its little gun-sleeve. Nobody has every said, “Is that a pistol in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?”
Amen.
I paint orange tips on all my guns so that I can carry legally in the open. /S
We sure have some dumb laws in this country.
When I was a kid, all the kids toted around 22s and 12 gauges and all things in between.
Pistols were frowned on, but i don’t recall a lot of gun violence back then.
No one was going around brandishing.
It was all out in the open but it was not threatening.
I still think brandishing is a bad idea.
Brandishing is a threat that is not followed through on.
It marks a person.
Let me clarify.
Pulling a gun and not using it can be more detrimental to your life than following through.
Brandishing should be used very cautiously.
If the gun is to small for your hand, that is a major problem.
I find that tiny guns “roll” on my hand.
It makes them hard to aim and it makes them misfire (stove pipes and the like)
We all like the notion of a small Concealed weapon but in practice there are trade offs.
I want a tiny 10mm the size of a derringer LOL /S
Yow.
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