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Boehner's Shutdown End-game play (you won't like it)
SOL of course | 10/15/2013 | sickoflibs

Posted on 10/15/2013 7:25:11 PM PDT by sickoflibs

This failure of an option B has set the stage for Bohners end game, very much like what happened early this year with taxes.

Reid Slams New House GOP Debt Limit Offer (Hissy fit) Roll Call ^ | 10/15/13 | Meredith Shiner

House vote pulled, chaos continues Politico ^ | 10-15-13 | By JAKE SHERMAN, BURGESS EVERETT, JOHN BRESNAHAN and SEUNG

Reid will pass his ‘bipartision’ bill using a procedure that only requires 50 votes but gutting a previously passed bill. That allows lots of GOP Senators cover to vote symbolically ‘no’ with no effect.

Then that Bill goes to house and Bohner puts it up for a vote and passes it with Pelosi Dems and a few Dems like Peter King, this will give lots of GOP house members plenty of cover to vote ‘no’ with no consequence.

That Senate Bill passes in the house as is Obama and signs it. Crisis ended. GOP gets pretty close to nothing. But Congress keeps their Obamacare subsidy and all those government employees who got furloughed get paid for that extra vacation. .

Lastly, no one challenges Bohner as Speaker just like in January. He keeps his job. None of them want it.

I almost forgot, Dems go into their Thanksgiving and Christmas celebrating their great victory over GOP and the Tea Party.
GOP(nor me) , not quite as happy.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bandp; boehner; gopcaves; reid; shutdown
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To: JRandomFreeper

This may throw some fire on the congress......bet ya Obama’s meeting to plan on evoking Executive Priviledge.....won’t matter if it’s an impeachable offense....he’ll evoke the 14th and force the Supreme Court to stop him......

.....”Lew will meet with President Barack Obama ‘and’ Vice President Joe Biden on Wednesday in a closed Oval Office strategy session”.


41 posted on 10/15/2013 8:34:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: Lazamataz
RE :”Amnesty passes or Obama shuts us down harder next time”

One bright side of all this is that time might be run out to pass amnesty.

Holidays coming up.

42 posted on 10/15/2013 8:35:25 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: sickoflibs

Doesn’t matter. They will legalize 16 million illegal aliens next week. All will vote Democratic. Republicans will be irrelevant.


43 posted on 10/15/2013 8:36:26 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: sickoflibs
Hey quit bashing Johnny, Hey sickoblibs I'm sickofyourdefeatism . . .

At least we are here tonight, I never thought we would get here. Who knows what could happen tomorrow? What if they held a default and Obama was forced to pay debt and not spend like a drunken sailor and the value of the dollar rises and interest rates drop?
44 posted on 10/15/2013 8:38:05 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: artichokegrower
RE :”Doesn’t matter. They will legalize 16 million illegal aliens next week. All will vote Democratic. Republicans will be irrelevant.”

One bright side of all this is that time might be run out to pass amnesty.

Holidays coming up.

45 posted on 10/15/2013 8:38:29 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: sickoflibs
Embracing defeat before it happens isn't achieving any conservative goal. It's whining. The time to bitch is AFTER something happens. Not about something you think may happen, but which may not.

How many times in the past 3 weeks have you called and sent letters to your congresscritters? Even if you do live in a liberal hell-hole, that's no reason not to put pressure on them.

/johnny

46 posted on 10/15/2013 8:38:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: RushingWater
RE :”Hey quit bashing Johnny, Hey sickoblibs I'm sickofyourdefeatism . . .”

WTF?? Bashing.

‘WHAAAAAA’.

What does he always call his mommy when he goes after others?

Isnt there a nice polyanna ‘Obama will surrender tomorrow’ thread here that would make you two lovebirds happy?

You could post one yourselves. Hit ‘post’

I promise to be more polite than you two are on it.

47 posted on 10/15/2013 8:42:50 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Whenifhow

Thanks Whenifhow!


48 posted on 10/15/2013 8:44:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
RE :”The time to bitch is AFTER something happens. “

That's pointless if you don't have a clue what went wrong because you think that being blind is the way to win,
then you never learn nothin.

...like those who still support Rush for making them think that Romney would win in a landslide.

Calling Nancy Pelosi office over this is just ridiculous.

49 posted on 10/15/2013 8:47:14 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: sickoflibs

Zero and Reid are pushing the country toward a Constitutional crisis, and their partisan media shills are trying to lay down the memes. I’m sure my allegedly intelligent family members (just ask ‘em, they’ll tell you how smart they are and how stupid everyone is who disagrees with them) will be among the small but sizable group in the country who will wholeheartedly support the destruction of the Constitutional structure in favor of “paying our bills” (IOW, raising the amount that we owe in order to spend even more).


50 posted on 10/15/2013 8:49:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: sickoflibs
Living in that liberal hell-hole sure has made you negative. I'm glad not everyone sees things the way you do, or no-one would be willing to do the heavy lifting to make things happen.

You roll around in your advance defeat fantasy if it makes you feel better.

I am not advocating going in blind, but this set of events is different. One big way that they are different is that the cave hasn't happened yet. People have been predicting a cave here on FR since before the shutdown. And it hasn't happened yet.

/johnny

51 posted on 10/15/2013 8:51:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Paying our bills” means not paying them now.

lol


52 posted on 10/15/2013 8:51:42 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Deagle

My driver’s license renewal came in the mail with a voter registration form.... think I should register Miss Kitty? I know she is a die hard Conservative... she hates those democrat doggies....


53 posted on 10/15/2013 8:53:04 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The only reason Bonehead hasn’t caved is because he feels the heat from the grassroots.

Last year Bonehead said “It’s the law of the land and it will be funded”... and that was during a re-election campaign. He feels more heat and pressure now than he did before an election.


54 posted on 10/15/2013 8:53:17 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
That's because people are motivated to make those calls and keep the pressure up on their reps.

Even liberal reps get nervous when the call volume goes up.

/johnny

55 posted on 10/15/2013 8:55:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SunkenCiv
RE :”Zero and Reid are pushing the country toward a Constitutional crisis, and their partisan media shills are trying to lay down the memes. I’m sure my allegedly intelligent family members (just ask ‘em, they’ll tell you how smart they are and how stupid everyone is who disagrees with them) will be among the small but sizable group in the country who will wholeheartedly support the destruction of the Constitutional structure in favor of “paying our bills” (IOW, raising the amount that we owe in order to spend even more).”

You know I tuned into Levin today his first half hour, when I was driving home , and that sounds exactly what he was saying. To his point :

If Obama can get public pressure to make the GOP cave, which was pretty predictable its amazing how surprised Mark always acts over the obvious, that's not much of a constitutional crisis.

If the GOP was smart they would get public pressure to make Obama cave. Now that I would love.

56 posted on 10/15/2013 8:56:31 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: JRandomFreeper
RE :”You roll around in your advance defeat fantasy if it makes you feel better”

Maybe you are right. Maybe Reid is peeing in his pants and will pass a bill defunding Obamacare tomorrow and Obama sign it Thursday.

That would certainly kill the establishment GOP from any say the next few years,

But I certainly don't see it.

57 posted on 10/15/2013 8:59:14 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: sickoflibs
Or maybe the House just refuses and the conservatives in the Senate keep blocking and we wear the bastards down, with the stupid GOP wing gaining some confidence.

/johnny

58 posted on 10/15/2013 9:01:01 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: sickoflibs
GOP gets nothing.

Yes. The GOP will get what it wants out of it.

59 posted on 10/15/2013 9:08:05 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: JRandomFreeper
RE:”Or maybe the House just refuses and the conservatives in the Senate keep blocking and we wear the bastards down, with the stupid GOP wing gaining some confidence.”

Sounds like Reid can pass this next bill with only 51 so he needs no GOP votes(and a few seem to be working on it anyway) .

Then its up to Bohner to not to put it up for a vote.

DADA. Braveheart Boehner will save us.

60 posted on 10/15/2013 9:10:30 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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