In the Bloggers & Personal forum, on a thread titled Obama’s New Shutdown Scam: Reverse his own position and then claim he saved his victims from the GOP, sickoflibs wrote:
RE :”Not only did we lose a war because of it.”
Vietnam was a cluster-..ck.
Johnson had no business scamming us into a war that he didnt have a clue how to win. And probably there was none.
His big plan was ‘wait it out and throw US boys at it till they give up’
Well ‘they’ weren’t giving up because their country was there and ours was here.
What lost that war was that the NVN soldiers were willing to fight and our allies the South SVN army expected us to fight for them, to do their jobs.
Is that what you learned in school ? You sure as hell didn’t serve there. I hope other FR’s who served there will respond to your stupid rant.
Those men were drafted. Then they served one year there and got out. Going there was like choosing the short straw.
The French learned their lesson and got out but Johnson trying to not look weak wanting to promote his Great Society stuck us there without any thought as to how he would end it.
One of my favorite idiot movies to laugh at is the Green Berets with John Wayne. In that he makes it look like Vietnam was like MacArthur and the Japanese. "Someday I kill all stinkin Cong' says Japanese Sulu the homo, playing the SVN officer.
THE NVN Communists were willing to fight and die to win, those losers in the South were not and instead they expected us to do it for them,.
By the time Nixon got it the was over, Americans had long lost patience.
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Ponder this, guys.
REFEERENCE--EXCERPTS A November 30, 2012 Cato.com report indicated the Insurance Exchanges will cost Twice What it Costs to Administer Medicare (NOT what he's told Americans).
ONE STATE'S LAUNCH COSTS Then in March 2013 CATO.COM reported "The Cost to Launch the California Health Insurance Exchange is $910 million".
So far (2012) California has received $910 million in federal grants to launch its new health insurance exchange under the Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare"). The California exchange, "Covered California," has so far awarded a $183 million contract to Accenture to build the website, enrollment, and eligibility system and another $174 million to operate the exchange for four years.
The state will also spend $250 million on a two-year marketing campaign. By comparison California Senator Barbara Boxer spent $28 million on her 2010 statewide reelection campaign while her challenger spent another $22 million.
The most recent installment of the $910 million in federal money was a $674 million grant. The exchange's executive director noted that was less than the $706 million he had asked for. "The feds reduced the 2014 potential payment for outreach and enrollment by about $30 million," he said. "But we think we have enough resources on hand to do the biggest outreach that I have ever seen."
For additional perspective....private insurance marketing site, Esurance sells not only health insurance but also things like homeowners and auto insurance across the country......author put his zip code into their system along with his age, they offered him 87 different health plans from all the big players in my area.
Now granted, the new health insurance exchanges are more complex because they have to interface with Medicaid and the IRS as well as calculate subsidies. But the order of magnitude difference in what it cost to launch esurance compared to the California exchange is pretty big.
Privately funded Esurance began its multi-product national web business in 1998 with an initial $5.5 million round of venture fund investment in 1999 and a second round of $34 million a few months later.
The start-up experience of other major web companies is also instructive. Facebook received $13.7 million to launch in 2005. eBay was founded in 1995 and received its first venture money in 1997––$6.7 million.
Even doubling these private investments for inflation still leaves quite a gap.
SOURCE http://www.cato.org/blog/californias-obamacare-exchange-costs-56-times-more-launch-facebook