Posted on 09/28/2013 1:20:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The GOP has a couple of alternate plans. The media just doesn’t like to talk about them:
BINGO.
The GOP needs to get off their hind ends, and pass in the House (as in PASS) a GOP-supported plan and compete with the Dems’ plan.
Now.
It is not enough to simply oppose what Dems are doing.
What is the alternative?
“[U]niversal health care gives any government enormous power that can potentially be misused, if the wrong people are in control.”
The author proceeds to cite Hayek, but does not mention that Hayek also demonstrates with both logic and history that government always attracts to worst sort of people to its highest offices.
The author correctly mentions that the National Socialists did not openly state many of their intentions, and how Hitler’s orders were vague and open to interpretation. In her magnum opus Eichmann in Jerusalem, Hannah Arendt explains that the Nazis had “rigid ‘language rules’ (Sprachregelung)” with prescribed code names for various aspects of the “final solution.” National Socialists and communists cannot achieve their ends without corrupting language. Orwell anticipated the time would come that government had so corrupted language that its subjects would lack the capability of even forming a subversive thought.
In her coverage of the Eichmann trial, Arendt notes with much dismay that the defense often referred to the gassing of people by the millions in the the camps as a “medical matter”.
As I said before, I’m with you 100%.
I just frankly am less enthusiastic than you, in leaving it up to companies.
They’re all leaving.
"The author proceeds to cite Hayek, but does not mention that Hayek also demonstrates with both logic and history that government always attracts to worst sort of people to its highest offices."
Not always.
Then someone else will have to start some other companies, after the restoration. Remember: Apple, a huge multinational, was started in a garage not that long ago, and we have millions of potential entrepreneurs out there, if the red tape bureaucrats would just get the hell out of their way! Watch the show “Shark Tank” sometime. Carter brought us Reagan, do you really think BHO will bring us Hillary?
I’m nitpicking here, but the people we call Nazis never referred to their party and their political philosophy as such. They called themselves National Socialists, and the name of their party was the NSDAP
National
Sozialismus (Socialist)
Deutsche (German)
Arbeiter (Workers)
Partei (Party)
The “D” part was really, really important to the Nazis.
But, you’re right about the most important thing: National Socialism is still socialism. And genuine socialism is necessarily totalitarian.
Point taken, but government was attracting the worst sort even then.
The colonies just got lucky, and happened to have some of the most enlightened people in history, people thoroughly educated in the Bible, John Locke (et al), and the history of Rome and Greece, to work out a system of government that limited the authority granted to even the best sort. The founders knew that the worst sort were attracted to politics.
Once you have control of something essential to peoples’ lives, like healthcare, food, housing, or jobs—then, the people will quickly support come to support you. They will even be fervent in their support of you. This may seem counterintuitive but it is human nature that once someone controls another person’s essential needs, the controlled person will decide, conciously or not, to adopt the attitude of supporting the person who controls him or her. Once gov’t turns everyone into a peasant dependent on gov’t for health care, the popular support for the gov’t will become almost universal.
It is a central evil of totalitarianism.
Just as a point of fact, I suspect you'd find that Lenin was the "*real*" father of universal healthcare.
Yep, the Bolsheviks provided the blueprint for the Nazis.
That is the plan. Both Obama and Hillary were big followers of Saul Alinsky who dedicated his books to Lucifer - the first rebel.
They are working to help us all make an easy transition to hell.
Both Obama and Hillary have worked to push their brand of marxist medicine.
One fell on her face, but her minions got some of hers stuff passed.
The other is "sticking it" to us as we write.
Question is - how long are we going to allow him to cram it down our throats?
The question is how does the government fund medical care for people that can't afford it? The answer to that question was medicare and medicaid. However; instead of the government raising taxes to paying the true treatment costs incurred by those programs, they decided to stiff healthcare providers. That forced everyone else to pay more which created a negative feedback loop.
Do a search using this search term - “Hitler T-4 Health Care Plan”
There is not much new in Obamacare that hasn’t been tried before.
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We know. We [I] tried to tell others. Some listened most said, “They can’t do that.” A few said, “You are crazy.”
I am interested in human reaction to “things/events”, and what they possibly mean.
On my twitter account, I quoted directly from hitlers health insurance/care plan with the has tag #obamacare #obama and #defundobamacare.
The replies have been very interesting from leftist (I am assuming), such as ‘I don’t think that’s in the bill are you paraphrasing’, ‘that makes sense what is your problem’, ‘why are you trashing over obama over this he wants everyone covered’, “yea so what’s your point’.
Not ONE of the replies I have received knew it was not the bill (obamacare) and accepted that it was in fact obamacare.
We are so screwed.
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