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To: Political Junkie Too

The intent of constitutional amendments is to make necessary changes that our founders couldn’t anticipate. The fact that the states have a mechanism as well as congress is to ensure a balance.

Understand what I said. You guys are promoting an Art V as some hail mary pass to save the republic. If you made this argument to Madison in the day, he would have said (and he DID say as much in the federalist papers), “Nonsense! The Constitution offers ample protections for the states to defend themselves against the federal gov’t without resorting to such extremes.”

You CAN try to use an Art. V as you described. I believe you’ll get liberal amendments instead of liberty ones, or at worse, a deadlock years in the making that wastes whatever time we may have left to make a real difference. To my point, the founders would have scratched their heads about this contention that such dire measures are needed. The Constitution already creates sovereign states armed with the tools to win a fight with Washington. They just need the resolve to do so.

And once we begin the process of fortifying states with the resolve to simply tell Washington, “no,” we will reach critical mass in short order. 5 or 10 states, acting in concert, can defang the monster. We can reach critical mass here far faster than we can getting 38 state legislatures on board, AND picking the right delegates, AND forcing Washington to step aside.

Jaqueline says nobody’s offering an alternative. I offer you one that can be accomplished cleaner and quicker than an Art V convention and without the very real risks to the union that an Art V convention enables.


91 posted on 09/26/2013 1:34:32 PM PDT by ziravan (Choose Sides.)
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To: ziravan
You side-stepped my question.

I know what the intent of amendments is, I'm asking what the intent of Article V conventions for the purpose of proposing amendments was, if states already had other means to control the federal government as you suggest?

I'm sensing that you acknowledge that the Framers put that in there for the states to use, but that you'd prefer that the states fight for 9th and 10th amendment rights, first, before they exercise their Article V powers.

What good is a power if others don't fear your use of them? We already see that Republicans in the House are afraid to use their power of the purse. We already see that Republicans in the Senate are afraid to use their minority rights to block cloture. Now you're advocating that states not use their Article V power to call for an amendments convention.

It's no wonder that Democrats are brazen and fearless. They know that Republicans won't use the powers that they have available to them, and won't stop Democrats from inventing powers that they don't constitutionally have.

You have to throw a punch every now and then for the opposition to take your threats seriously. As it stands now, it's clear that the Democrats strategize on the expectation that Republicans will blink, will fold, will cave, etc. Chuck Schumer said so outright, just the other day.

-PJ

104 posted on 09/26/2013 7:09:53 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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