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To: CpnHook; Nero Germanicus; JohnnyP

It would be difficult for Dr. Onaka or any state registrar to certify that the facts on any birth certificate are true unless he or she was present at the time of the event. This is certainly true for the demographic information supplied by the parents (ages, birthplaces, occupations even the names of the father). But the significant information on a birth certificate (DOB, hour, location, hospital and doctor names) would be presumed to be true since that information is supplied directly by the hospital at the time of the event.

Dr. Onaka specifically verified that “Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital” is listed on the original birth record as the hospital or institution. There is no logical scenario that would allow a parent, grandparent, or other person to register a birth as having occurred at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.


56 posted on 09/23/2013 11:26:23 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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Hawaii statute allows law enforcement to request a totally fake BC to be created for somebody if they say that person is endangered without it. The forgeries put out by the HDOH itself, together with the fudging of multiple BC#’s, shows that something very fishy is going on. And the only instance in which a BC# other than the one originally given is allowed to be given is when there is this law enforcement fabrication.

If Obama’s BC is fabricated at the request of law enforcement it will say ANYTHING. It could have said he was born yesterday, if that’s what law enforcement told the HDOH to put on it. And as long as the original birth record was legally valid, everything would appear genuine. But Alvin Onaka is the person tasked with preventing his own HDOH Director from issuing a certified copy of a valid BC when there is only a non-valid one. The law enforcement exception is only allowable for a person who really WAS born in Hawaii according to the records, and all they’ve got for Obama is a non-valid record - a rumor. That’s why Onaka would not verify the truth of any birth fact for Obama.


61 posted on 09/23/2013 4:14:57 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: 4Zoltan
Dr. Onaka specifically verified that “Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital” is listed on the original birth record as the hospital or institution. There is no logical scenario that would allow a parent, grandparent, or other person to register a birth as having occurred at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.

Actually, this isn't entirely true. If a birth occurred in transit or en route for example, the hospital could be listed as the location where the child was first examined. The certificate is supposed to contain a statement that the child was born en route, such as on a ship or on a plane, and nothing in the "letters of verification" precludes this from being possible.

76 posted on 09/23/2013 11:01:24 PM PDT by edge919
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