REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS ARE RUNNING AWAY FROM TOWN HALLS IN AUGUST

tomfernandez28.com ^ | 8/15/13

[Norm Lenhart]

I believe he also said a party had to believe in something and could not be all things to all people.

[Moonman62]

They include: Rep. Rodney Davis (R-IL); Rep. Tim Griffin (R-AK); Rep. John Kline (R-MN); Senate Minority Whip John Cornyn (R-TX); Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), the chair of the House Rules Committee; Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC);

A FReeper put up a thread saying Linda Graham held one by phone.

[Servant of the Cross]

Yes. And, as this quote indicates, he certainly had a line where the 'compromise' was too great. And there were many other times he happily incrementally gained ground on his position(s) with a compromise.

p.s. One would be accurate to call this post of yours a 'strawman argument'.

[Norm Lenhart]

Yup, softball and scripted.

We need more like him. Ask several posters to this thread who crave RINO compromise.

[C. Edmund Wright]

The legacy of the name is an issue, but the rest of your assessments are simply not following logic. In fact, I don’t think you can, so let’s drop it. Because I am nothing if not drop dead logical. Your Reagan response was blitheringly illogical, but I’m sure you don’t realize that.

(and you can’t touch that “what about the 100 or so other third parties, not to mention the human nature issue. You can’t even begin to counter those, because there is NO counter.)

[Lazamataz]

Norm, since you have not complied and tried to define the terms, allow me: I believe you are using the term 'compromise' with different definitions. I would use the followign term:

• 'Compromise': To mean coming to terms with your opponent in a way that does not involve either party abandoning their core requirement(s), and in a manner in which both sides concede equal amounts of less-important requirements.
• 'Unequal Compromise': To mean coming to terms with your opponent in a way that does not involve either party abandoning their core requirement(s), however, one party makes few or no concessions on their less-important requirements.
• 'Concession': To mean coming to terms with your opponent in a way that involves you abandoning some or all of your core requirement(s) with no similar abandonment by your opponent.
• 'Cooperation': To mean working with someone who might normally be an opponent, against a greater opponent... the 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' concept. The WWII Churchill/Stalin analogy would correctly fall in this definition.

Based on these definitions, I bet you agree much more than you disagree.

Prove me wrong. Or right.

Commence.

[C. Edmund Wright]

Your being an obtuse ass and arguing in straw extremes.....I don’t think you can process any nuance, and you cloak your lack of intellectual ability in the purity of your own irrelevance.

[Norm Lenhart]

No one would not. But thanks for playing.

Do you not see the result of compromise or did you miss Obamacare, the Border, Amnesty and the Behenghazi investigations/FF et all going nowhere?

you want more like that? Keep compromising more libs into office with Rs on their names so the Dems dont have to stick their necks out so far.

Or is modern/recent history also a strawman?

[Norm Lenhart]

I remember another political philosophy that thrives on nuanced politics. Democrats.

[C. Edmund Wright]

NL doesn’t want to properly define the terms, because that would expose the weakness in his argument and knock him off his self imposed high horse.

[Lazamataz]

Stop. Back up. Try again.

[C. Edmund Wright]

another straw argument by someone way over their head.....

[C. Edmund Wright]

no, this is like playing chess with a pigeon...NL craps the board, knocks the pieces on the floor, and struts around like he’s made a point.

[Lazamataz]

NL doesn’t want to properly define the terms, because that would expose the weakness in his argument and knock him off his self imposed high horse.

Please, my friend, don't make it personal. We are on the same team here. Let's work on education and helping one another become more effective as a unit. K?

[C. Edmund Wright]

He’s like that comedian, throwing around terms, but not using them correctly.....

[C. Edmund Wright]

I don’t think we are on the same team, and assessment is not personal, or shouldn’t be taken that way.

[Lazamataz]

no, this is like playing chess with a pigeon...NL craps the board, knocks the pieces on the floor, and struts around like he’s made a point.

I don't see Norm in that light. If I don't, I bet there's some validity and rationale for my impressions... Suggestion: back up, allow the definitions to be accepted, and have a (much more productive) discussion.

[Norm Lenhart]

Compromise in the modern venacular means Republicans bowing scraping and bending a knee to whatever liberals demand.

It means conservatives forget that electing pro abort repubs has a direct effect of very dead babies.

It means out military gets sexually assaulted in record numbers with the full blessing (in the idealistic sense) of the last GOP candidate

It means any number of things we all know by heart. So I ask why is it exactly we should abandon our principles to gain the benefits of vaccusucked baby parts, buggered servicemen, dead Mexicans and dead SEALS et all?

Because that aint straw. It’s real and the very direct result of electing ‘compromise’ Just so we could WIN!

Look what we won.

[Lazamataz]

Bro, in the 12 step program that I am part of, they always tell me that I have no power over other people, places, and things. All I have power over is my attitude and immediate actions. They tell me that I shouldn’t take anyone else’s inventoty, but only find where *I* have been wrong and where *I* can make an amend. I clean my side of the street, only. It’s a really good way to live!

[Norm Lenhart]

He made it personal a long time ago.

No we are not on the same team. He is good with more of the same and I am not.