[Seizethecarp]

Per “John” (”birther”) on NBC’s Obot blog:

“The CCP’s real holy grail in now Miki Booth’s and friends original hard copy birth certificate from Hawaii. To further strengthen their findings, the CCP needs to scan these birth certificates preferely on a Xerox and observe their findings.”

IIRC, these LFBC originals from other HI babies are many years old and not all are from 1961. Miki’s is from the late 1960’s and on a different form, IIRC.

The problem with this is that an original comparable to Barry’s claimed LFBC for forensic purposes would have to have been for a 1961 birth recorded on the same form and then copied and certified in 2011 by the same copy process using the same security paper that was used for Barry’s.

I have not seen any other HI LFBC that LOOKS like Barry’s in terms of layout on the page and security paper. This could be due to the BC being entirely fabricated OR uniquely manufactured just for Barry as a one-time job just for his attorney to allegedly hand-carry to DC.

Lacking a 1961 HI LFBC for a different person copied and certified in 2011, the CCP could not be expected to replicate or fail to replicate the anomalies on Barry’s WH LFBC pdf, IMO.

[4Zoltan]

"The CCP’s real holy grail in now Miki Booth’s and friends original hard copy birth certificate from Hawaii."

Here is how the CCP described their investigation back on March 1st, 2012 starting at line 105:

"What should President Obama's birth certificate have looked like after being scanned into a computer? In order to find out we stripped away the document's green background, leaving only a black and white document. Next the document was photocopied onto green basket-weave safety paper. The document was then scanned into a computer and opened in Adobe Illustrator. Once inside Illustrator the file was as it should be; it has one layer and one link."

And at line 221:

"You'll recall that we took Barack Obama's birth certificate, removed the green background, then photocopied it onto green basket-weave safety paper. Next we scanned it into a computer."

http://buenavistamall.com/Sheriff_Arpaio_transcript.pdf

And from the July 17, 2012 press conference:

"The Cold Case Posse is very much aware that layers can be created when a document is optimized. In fact, we pointed out in video number 4 that the control document in our test contained 45 layers after being optimized. ...So when you see experts on television or the internet stating that Barack Obama’s Long Form Birth Certificate doesn’t have any problems because they scanned and optimized a document and they got layers too, they are guilty of not digging deeply enough into the layers to see what types of layers were produced and how those layers differed from the layers in Barack Obama’s pdf file. For example, the pdf file released by Barack Obama has eight 1-bit layers and one 8-bit color background layer. This is not consistent with optimizing a document but is consistent with tampering. Were the layers truly the result of optimization, we would have seen only one 1-bit layer and multiple 8-bit background layers."

And

"...tests were performed using all forms of compression capable of creating layers and with many different software programs. Both experts came to the same conclusion independently of each other. The anomalies in the pdf file purported to be a scan of Obama’s Long Form Birth Certificate cannot be duplicated using the known forms of compression in currently available software."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100805605/Unofficial-Transcript-of-the-Arpaio-Maricopa-County-Cold-Case-Posse-Press-Conference-July-17-2012

There is no mention of the use of someone's real Hawaiian birth certificate or even about using different types of scanners. And their statement about optimization is wrong as MRC creates one 8-bit layer and multiple 1-bit layers. And that is the significance of NBCs work. If true it shows that just scanning a document into a PDF will create the type of layers seen in the White House PDF.

Here is Alan Booth's LFBC:

http://logisticsmonster.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/MikiBoothBC.jpg

The green security paper looks different.

[Flotsam_Jetsome]

"This could be due to the BC being entirely fabricated OR uniquely manufactured just for Barry as a one-time job just for his attorney to allegedly hand-carry to DC."

You had mentioned previously that it was odd that his lawyers made the trek all the way to HI to retrieve the "document." It would make perfect sense that they did so in order to avoid committing a postal offense. Most people would have just had the items sent via certified mail. I can't recall where I saw it now, but I believe that Bob Bauer is on record stating explicitly that "Obama" would not even be allowed to physically hold a copy of the "document" posted on WH servers on 27 April 2011.

Honest people don't behave this way.