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To: butterdezillion

And as far as the security paper goes, guess what? Government offices don’t always necessarily use the same security paper.

They just don’t.

The HDOH and the State, and two governors of both parties have been very clear - at least to everyone except birthers, for whom the rule is “If there is any POSSIBLE way on earth we can read this to mean they aren’t confirming the birth certificate, then that’s exactly what it means.”

They’ve been about as clear as possible that Obama was born in Hawaii, that his birth certificate is valid, and that it’s the same thing as the image that was posted on the WH web site.


68 posted on 08/08/2013 8:44:55 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

Then why, when Onaka was asked point-blank and legally required to say yes if he could, did Onaka fail to verify any of the facts submitted on the actual request application AND that the White House image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file”?

He was asked point-blank, and his response was to be a certification - the legal equivalent of being put under oath. Why would he not verify any of those things? He is the only one legally authorized to confirm what was on the real document and he wouldn’t. That is the LEGAL answer we’ve been given.

The others are not legally authorized to disclose anything. They have made their carefully-parsed comments out of one side of their mouth and out of the other side of their mouth they say they are legally prohibited from disclosing anything. So which is it? Can they legally disclose what’s on the BC or not? If they confirmed a Hawaii birth as you say, then they are disclosing what is on the BC and broke the laws by their own stinking admission. Are those the people you’re going to trust over and above the legal custodian of the record who contradicts the claims of the illegal disclosures?


72 posted on 08/08/2013 8:54:38 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Jeff Winston

Show me your proof that Hawaii used different kinds of security paper in their office within a 2-week time period in May of 2011. Security paper is supposed to help expose forgeries; how can it do that if the HDOH randomly uses some paper with security features and some without? You act like you know how these offices do things; tell me your credentials and why we should believe what you say.


74 posted on 08/08/2013 9:00:53 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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