Posted on 07/26/2013 6:17:24 AM PDT by cotton1706
Blocking a government funding bill over ObamaCare is "the dumbest idea I've ever heard," Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) said Thursday.
Burr argued stopping ObamaCare's funding is not going to be achievable as long as President Obama is in the White House, and that Republicans risked taking the blame if they forced the goverment to shut down over the issue.
"I think it's the dumbest idea I've ever heard," Burr told journalist Todd Zwilich Thursday. "Listen, as long as Barack Obama is president the Affordable Care Act is gonna be law.
"I think some of these guys need to understand that you shut down the federal government, you better have a specific reason to do it that's achievable," Burr continued. "Defunding the Affordable Care Act is not achievable through shutting down the federal government."
Support is building within the House and Senate GOP for using a continuing resolution to fund the government to take a stand on ObamaCare.
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) has been among the loudest voices arguing Republicans should not fund ObamaCare through a government-funding measure.
Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) is spearheading the effort and has rallied a number of Tea Party Republicans and members of Senate Republican leadership around the proposal.
House Republicans are also putting pressure on their leaders over the issue.
On Wednesday, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) also expressed opposition to the proposal.
"I think holding the debt limit hostage to any specific thing is probably not the best negotiating place," Blunt said.
That’s satire, right?
I do not agree with your point! If republicans would've run a competent conservative Clinton would have lost!
I'm just gobsmacked by either the willful BLINDNESS or namby pamby attitude which pervades so many of you especially here at FR!
The RNC. Leading the Strategic Retreat Since Forever™
And look where it's gotten us. Full-blown socialism. Who would think that a policy of continuous surrender would end up like this?
Oh my gosh. We lost 6 seats in the House and the Presidency and you think that is satire. I guess Obama has gotten into your head.
No, your absurd thinking behind it is. Wow dude....SHALLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No. Appropriations bills become law when they are passed by both houses of Congress and signed by the president.
I don't know why people are demanding the House try to unilaterally stop Obamacare through buedgeting. It's never going to pass the Senate and be signed by the president.
It's just stupid foot stomping.
What we need now is to implement Obamacare and let the people see what they get when they elect Democrats. That's the only solution. When the people have to live with it, they will demand change.
“I think some of these guys need to understand that you shut down the federal government, you better have a specific reason to do it that’s achievable,” Burr continued”
A specific reason? How about it being saturday and sunday....
Just curious, can you point me to the evidence of ANY such law being repealed? Other than prohibition, I wonder what makes anyone believe that full implementation of commiecare is going result in it being overturned. Thanks.
When Reagan was president, the democrats wanted him to stop supporting freedom-fighters opposing their liberal socialists buddies in south america, but they had no way to pass a law.
SO instead, they simply cut all funding, making it illegal to SPEND any money for that support — even though otherwise, existing law made that support legal. So rather than changing a law, they used funding.
It was this action that lead to Reagan seeking ways to get private money to the contras. Which led to Iran-Contra.
Which is like Obama trying to get private companies to pony up money for Obamacare because he knows the house won’t vote NEW appropriations.
So if the house would simply refuse to appropriate ANY money for the parts of obamacare that need money and are destructive to our country, they would simply be following in the footsteps of democrats. Not that this would stop liberals from screaming, because liberals are never consistant except in their inconsistancy.
“This led to an improved economy and eventually a budget surplus”
You are correct that the shutdown led to forcing Clinton’s caving to the right’s policies, however I wanted to clarify one simple thing. The reported “surplus” was a twisting of data and was never actually realized. It was always just a “forecast.”
Again I talk with facts. You speak with emotion. You always have. Fact is that we lost 6 seats in the House and Had President Clinton for four additional years and the government shut down was one of the reason. That has been studied for many years. Sorry that doesn’t fit your agenda but again I only speak in facts.
Mark Levin did a nice job of deconstructing that viewpoint last night on his show. The Republicans only lost out when they lost their will. Again.
http://www.marklevinshow.com/common/page.php?pt=July+25%2C+2013&id=4653&is_corp=0
You speak with facts, but your analysis of why those facts happen is idiotic. I do not speak with emotion, I simply understand that your reasoning is specious.
Naps will never be able to follow along with Levin reasoning.....or yours or mine for that matter. Speed (of grey cells) matters.....
And you have no right to be specious. You can shut down the government tomorrow and it won't hurt me. Sure my family will just live on my military pension and savings, but big whoop. I don't want the government shut down because it is not good for the Republicans...that is it.
I think too many people confuse ‘good politics’ with good governance.
We’re going broke. ZeroCare must be stopped and it must be stopped as soon as possible. We say we want smaller government and then when an opportunity comes to draw a hard line in the sand against a wildly unpopular law, we get cold feet.
Why do we do that? (Rhetorical for you, of course).
With due respect Naps, you are a breathtakingly shallow thinker. You’ve bought hook line and sinker what the liberal media wants you to buy. You’ve bought into the idiotic GOP estab line of thinking. By your way of thinking, we can NEVER EVER EVER stand up for anything that is right UNTIL it is popular and we won’t get blamed for it.
What your teeny processer cannot access is that truths must be supported in the public arena in the face of incoming flak....otherwise, you’ll always be playing on the enemies’ turf. You might as well be Karl Rove’s boi on the side......
This is NOT a fact! It's BS rino conjecturing nonsense which has put the republican party where it is today. Republicans do not get the simple FACT the Dems play them like the rino asshats they truly are til the end of the day!
That's why republicans are losers!
That's what I thought too, until I heard Mark Levin's show last night. (You can listen to the Thursday night podcast on his web site) He was reading an article by a conservative who had done some research, reading through news accounts of the time.
Apparently, there was more pressure on Dems to cave than Republicans, because the gimme crowd was riding them. He cited accounts in the WAPO and NYT.
And this was in an era when Rush was the only conservative media.
Where we lost was in getting credit for the balanced budget. The media credited Clinton, to no one's surprise.
Anyway, we have to plant a flag somewhere. The Republican Party's 30-year-long strategy of constant retreat has gotten us where we are today. At the very least, any other approach would have to be better.
That reply was Orwellian to the point of trollish.
You are what you are and you do what you do. Anyone who wants to see it, can see it.
Same with me. “Let’s play pretend” doesn’t work here.
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