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To: Ray76
I can only say that for you of all people to complain that others are “unendingly rude and hostile” is more than laughable, it is absurd.

I will admit that my hostility to birthers has grown over time.

I started out very polite. For my politeness, I was called a "shill," an "Obot," an "Obama supporter," and many other names, some of which are unrepeatable.

Not just once, but literally dozens and dozens of times.

Other language was used which made me reasonably conclude that if certain birthers were present, they wouldn't hesitate to do a Trayvon Martin on me, simply because I pointed out the falsity of their BS.

I finally got tired of it.

Even recently, DiogenesLamp has told me, repeatedly, that if he had the opportunity to do so, he would "beat my ass."

I realize that you haven't been in on the entire conversation. But perhaps that will help you understand a bit of the history.

I also think that endlessly reposting disproven nonsense is offensive. To the extent that people post things worthy of respect, they get respect from me.

Even you, though we seem to find ourselves on opposite sides of the birther stuff, have gotten some respect from me recently by making a very good post regarding the Zimmerman case, which I said I agreed with almost 100%.

If someone posts nothing but bullcrap, well, that doesn't gain a lot of respect from me.

In any event, I tried, in the beginning, to set a tone of civility. Birthers wanted to adopt a harsh, adversarial tone. Okay. They've got it.

47 posted on 07/03/2013 5:43:11 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

Whether posters agree on a point is not the point, the point is civility.

Of all posters I have read on FR, or on any site... going back to dial up text BBSs, most of your posts are by far the most abrasive I have ever encountered.


52 posted on 07/03/2013 10:25:42 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Jeff Winston
Even recently, DiogenesLamp has told me, repeatedly, that if he had the opportunity to do so, he would "beat my ass."

Again, it is the nasty attitude, the constant refusal to tell the truth, the constant assertion that we have no facts on our side, the constant attempts by you to project a false equivalency, the constant shrill shrieking, and so on.

In any event, I tried, in the beginning, to set a tone of civility. Birthers wanted to adopt a harsh, adversarial tone. Okay. They've got it.

And the usage of the term "birther" as an intentional pejorative. Since you've been constantly asserting that "birthers" are stupid, ignorant liars, how are you claiming that you "set a tone of civility"?

62 posted on 07/04/2013 12:24:40 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Jeff Winston

“””I will admit that my hostility to birthers has grown over time.””””

Let me ask you one question and please if possible for you, answer with one word just yes or no..... Based on your answer I will have a follow-up question.

Do you Jeff Winston believe that the document represented as Obama’s Long form Birth Certificate posted on the official White House website is a copy of of the actual document?

Yes or No Please


135 posted on 07/05/2013 6:02:06 PM PDT by Constitution 123
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