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Surveillance: Can We Take a Step Back?
Diana West ^ | June 8, 2013 | Diana West

Posted on 06/08/2013 6:54:17 PM PDT by thouworm

Surveillance: Can We Take a Step Back?

Written by:Diana West 6/8/2013 7:56:00 AM

I'm taking a short break today from promoting "American Betrayal" to write about the latest stages of tyrannical development in these United States for Dispatch International. The assignment is the burgeoning Obama scandals -- IRS, Prism, whatever breaks next.

This means two things: 

One, this assignment is really no break at all from promotion of American Betrayal, because American Betrayal is a history of tyrannical development in these United States, and why we can't see it.

Two, partly because of the newspaper's mainly Euopean readership, I will be taking an explanatory step back from the tight-focus coverage and anaylsis of events to date.

Americans should, too.

Regarding the latest scandal to break -- the communications surveillance scandal -- I think something big is being overlooked in a near-sighted debate to determine whether security trumps privacy to prevent a terrorist attack. On the one hand, we have our 4th Amendment guarantees against no- probable-cause searches and seizures. On the other hand, we are told, the US government has that night-sweats-desperation, that countdown-clock-urgency to do whatever it takes to prevent a terrorist attack. That means, they say, scooping up our "meta-data" and treating them with 4th Amendment inspired kid gloves (right).

What is being overlooked? The US government is saying we need to fish from a pool of 300 million Americans to find and pre-empt the next "terrorist" -- or else. It is saying that we need to do this because there are no other predicters of "terrorism." It is saying that there are no doctrinal predicters of "terrorism." It is lying.

It is lying about "terrorism" itself.

Why -- to keep us safe? Or to keep Islam safe?

Ah, Islam. This, as usual, is what we are overlooking. The US government is lying to hide the threat to liberty, to peace, that Islam poses, just as I have discovered (and explained in American Betrayal) that the US government lied to hide the threat to liberty, to peace that Communism posed during World War II.

And why was/is that? The answer is a story of infiltration, penetration and subversion. It happened before. It is happening again. 

The  long-range impact of such an assault on truth and logic is shattering. But consider the more immediate impact on the American people. The US government has become a shill for Islam in alliance with such nations as Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan, just as it once served as a shill for Communism in alliance with Stalin. During World War 2, anti-Communists officials were even purged from Washington, anti-Communist materials, too. We the People were lied to then by Uncle Sam, thus ensuring the advance of Marx into society's deepest tissues.

It's happening again. The lies Uncle Sam is telling us today guarantee the advance of sharia into our deepest tissues, too -- cultural, legal, political, the works.

Meanwhile, woe to anyone who brings facts to the national security table: facts about jihad, facts about sharia, facts about Mohammed, facts about dhimmitude. As up-ending contradictions to the government's Big Lies, such people, too, become enemies of the state.  

What do you wanna bet that their "meta-data," too, haven't been targeted by the behemoth?




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KEYWORDS: americanbetrayal; benghazi; dianawest; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs; islam; islamofascism; prism; tyranny
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1 posted on 06/08/2013 6:54:17 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

If they really wanted to protect us from terrorism they would secure the border and stop importing terrorists.


2 posted on 06/08/2013 6:59:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

exactly!

West is right; it’s the elephant in the room no one is discussing in the MSM when they report on the surveillance revelations.


3 posted on 06/08/2013 7:03:09 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: cripplecreek

Bingo.

Stop importing terrorists. What a lovely, simple concept that works well every time it’s tried.

I’d like to offer another idea as well: Stop allowing terrorists in training to study engineering at our schools.

Next idea: Stop giving them weapons to play with.

And another idea: Stop giving them money and medical assistance as well.


4 posted on 06/08/2013 7:03:44 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: thouworm

Yes, we can step back from where we are.

All we need is a Republican Congressional caucus that quits being a bunch of boot-licking holster sniffers.

Law enforcement is not our friend. Intelligence bureaucrats and their budgets are a threat to the US. Stop voting this stuff in.


5 posted on 06/08/2013 7:05:15 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

What we have is extortion.

“Give us all your data and information or our buddies here (that we’ve selectively imported for just this purpose!) will blow up your kids at foot races. And explode planes in your office buildings. And shoot your kids while they’re at the mall.”

“If you want privacy you just want all the children to blow up!”


6 posted on 06/08/2013 7:06:25 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: cripplecreek

One scary aspect of this is, when the last vestige of freedom is wiped out in the US, there is no one to save us or anyone else in the world from the evil bastards. May God have mercy on us all.


7 posted on 06/08/2013 7:06:30 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: thouworm
Just please remember, it's not NSA that's requesting this surveillance, it's the DOJ under Eric Holder.

Look at the leaked Verizon FISA warrant. NSA is doing the collecting only because it's been ordered to.

Why are so many media reports getting this wrong? This is just another baseless DOJ warrant signed off by Eric Holder!

Obviously, the media is still in Eric-Holder-protection mode.

8 posted on 06/08/2013 7:10:24 PM PDT by EarlyBird (This space for rent)
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To: thouworm

Israel faces a far greater daily terrorism threat than we do but they manage to prevent nearly every one because they look every single person entering their country in the eye and they aren’t afraid to profile them.


9 posted on 06/08/2013 7:15:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: EarlyBird

Maxine Waters.

“The President has put in place an
organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before
in life,” Representative Maxine Waters told Roland Martin on Monday.
“That’s going to be very, very powerful,” Waters said. “That database
will have information about everything on every individual on ways that
it’s never been done before and whoever runs for President on the
Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with
that database and the concerns of those people because they can’t get
around it. And he’s [President Obama] been very smart. It’s very
powerful what he’s leaving in place.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIA1lQBqH1s&feature=youtu.be


10 posted on 06/08/2013 7:17:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: thouworm

Too late, your megadata are out there.


11 posted on 06/08/2013 7:17:56 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: EarlyBird; NVDave; cripplecreek

West’s interviews about her new book are excellent.

Simplifying, the book compares the WWII period, during which the American government was infiltrated by Communists and Communist sympathizers, to today, when our government is infiltrated by Islamist sympathizers (like Muslim Brotherhood) and influencing our domestic and foreign policies.

As the country was in denial then, so we are in denial today to the ideological threat of islamofascism.

She called the book American Betrayal because just as we were betrayed by our government then, so we are being betrayed now.

A list of her video and mp3 interviews can be found here:
http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/2534/American-Betrayal-Links-Take-Your-Pick.aspx


12 posted on 06/08/2013 7:25:08 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: NVDave

John Kerry just gave billions to the MB in Egypt. How is he allowed by Congress to give that kind of aid to our enemies?


13 posted on 06/08/2013 7:32:30 PM PDT by boxlunch (Isaiah 41:10)
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To: cripplecreek

No kidding. That fact annihilates their argument for spying on citizens. They aren’t spying on us to protect us from terrorists, so what are they spying on us for? I can only see one reason.


14 posted on 06/08/2013 7:33:41 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly. Don’t blame the NSA - I bet that’s where all these leaks are coming from. The NSA has been ordered to do this by politicians, and the NSA folks are not happy about it.


15 posted on 06/08/2013 7:33:57 PM PDT by EarlyBird (This space for rent)
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To: boxlunch

Because Boehner is worthless chickenchit. He’s compromised, I’m sure.


16 posted on 06/08/2013 7:37:00 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: cripplecreek

A decade ago on this forum I called it the New Immigration Police State.

There is no way to let this many alien peoples into our country and not have it wracked by violence, unless you hold it together by overwhelming force.

And this is being done for what?

Keeping the oil flowing by appeasing the Saudi dictators?

Balkanizing the country to appease cultural Marxists of the Left?

A million other idiot reasons that all boil down to one thing...hatred of the Americans, circa 1960?

The answer...Yes.

What West is describing is real, but just a symptom.

In the end, it’s just the goal of replacing the American people with something more appealing to the so-called “elites”.

The New Immigration Police State is just a tool of that imperative.


17 posted on 06/08/2013 7:39:35 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly. Don’t blame the NSA - I bet that’s where all these leaks are coming from. The NSA has been ordered to do this by politicians, and the NSA folks are not happy about it.


18 posted on 06/08/2013 7:39:46 PM PDT by EarlyBird (This space for rent)
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To: thouworm

There’s one word that covers what is needed, and what the politically correct are trying to hide by assaulting all of our rights...

What is needed is PROFILING...

(There, I said it!)


19 posted on 06/08/2013 7:40:24 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette
What is needed is PROFILING...

lol...

And we know they understand the concept!

Problem is, our government insists on profiling the wrong people.

20 posted on 06/08/2013 7:47:38 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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