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Ryan-Rubio “Conservative” Amnesty Ads Insult our Intelligence
scottfactor.com ^ | 05/21/13 | Gina Miller

Posted on 05/21/2013 4:53:12 AM PDT by scottfactor

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Marco Rubio somehow became the darling of the Tea Party crowd in Florida. Why is beyond my understanding...His idea of concervatism is stealing Party money by using the Party charge card to buy $8K worth of hardwood flooring for his home, only paying it back after he was reminded to do so. He's a fraud, a thief, and somewhere the morals of his hardworking parents became lost to him.
1 posted on 05/21/2013 4:53:12 AM PDT by scottfactor
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I am so sick of that ad; I wonder how much the buy is costing us.

Oh, I'll take “virtual amnesty” over actual amnesty.

2 posted on 05/21/2013 4:58:46 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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Unless the great unwashed can come up with more campaign cash than the oligarchs who want cheap immigrant labor, Rubio and Ryan will be fine.


3 posted on 05/21/2013 5:02:14 AM PDT by Wolfie
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Yea, they’re running the ads here in Houston locally. I think the Suckerberg guy from Facebook is paying for them.

But the ads are so bad, I’m not sure if they’re effective.


4 posted on 05/21/2013 5:02:30 AM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: scottfactor

This is why I never put any politicians up on a pedestal. They always fall off.


5 posted on 05/21/2013 5:05:52 AM PDT by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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This amnesty bill will bring in 100 million more immigrants (relatives of the amnestied from the 3rd world.This bill must be stopped .they are trying to fool us into thinking this bill is conservative. anytime they say reform it means more government and or more immigrants.

This stupid commercial comes on non-stop on the Rush and Hannity shows. send them emails telling them .who is Behan this lying bs? and then there's fox news radio also liberal news on Rush every 30 minutes. I stopped watching tv to not have to listen to socialist/democrat propaganda i try to listen to Rush and then its’ fox news and this bs ad.

6 posted on 05/21/2013 5:06:50 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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"Marco Rubio somehow became the darling of the Tea Party crowd in Florida. Why is beyond my understanding."

Then I suppose simple logic falls into that same category according to your standards. How dare you to slander the voters, especially the conservative ones, with your 20/20 hindsight analysis.

We had a simple choice, either the GOPe, NRSC chosen idol of Charlie Crist, or a newcomer with state legislative leadership experience espousing a message that was right on target for conservatives and Tea Partiers alike. He kept that message all through his tough uphill fight against the GOPe and right up to his interview with Rush Limbaugh before his last one which was a total debacle.

Do you honestly think (key word here) there are not thousands of Floridians who were pissed when he flipped? We are and the results are showing and I have serious doubts he will win the next primary when looking at the loses he is attaining with voters here. He has even lost 5% of the Hispanics and that was from last month!

So, are you a Floridian?.

7 posted on 05/21/2013 5:07:25 AM PDT by mazda77
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BS. Rubio is solid on most issues. He just stinks on immigration.


8 posted on 05/21/2013 5:08:51 AM PDT by ilgipper (The lesson for the GOP is simple - don't let the opposition define you)
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GOP: Party as usual.

They don’t need ‘conservatives’, they thought they have ‘replacement base’ in this deal.

Anybody still think they can trust democrats and ‘bipartisan’ anything should be dead to conservatives.


9 posted on 05/21/2013 5:09:14 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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Soros is probably behind the ad , it's no conservative group, and they have a lot of money as that ad plays 24/7 all over the place .i’ve heard that ad about a milion times on Rush, it's on almost every 10 mins.they can't fool me. conservative my ass. it's democrats behind that ad. this bill is more gov and a 100 million more immigrants (the relatives of the amnestied from the 3rd world_. that's not conservative.
10 posted on 05/21/2013 5:10:32 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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Yes, they are blatantly lying on this one. Zuckerberg fronts ‘Americans for a Conservative Direction’. I am also wondering if there is Soros money there, too. It will fool some of the low-information voters. I had the smarts to look up the organization.


11 posted on 05/21/2013 5:12:12 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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“Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?”


12 posted on 05/21/2013 5:13:17 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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NONE of these people will answer the simplest question: “So what do you do with the illegals who do NOT jump through all your hoops? Deport them?” If not, how do you enforce? If so, why not now?


13 posted on 05/21/2013 5:15:19 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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It's about bringing in 100 million more democrat voters from the 3rd world( the relatives of the amnestied back in the 3rd world for now). then the whole USA now will make california look conservative by comparison. california used to be a conservative red state. import millions of 3rd world vermin and you have the liberal hell hole california is now. they are trying to California the whole USA

we have enough people. all immigration must be ended now. we have no jobs nor opportunity for Americans much less to import hundreds of millions more 3rd world trash to turn the USA into a socialist hell hole

14 posted on 05/21/2013 5:18:20 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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“BS. Rubio is solid on most issues.”

Charles Manson is an artist.

Hitler was a vegetarian.

And Winston Smith learned to love Big Brother George Soros.

(Soros owns Rubio).


15 posted on 05/21/2013 5:19:10 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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Totally agree. I am furious with those ads. Obviously misleading.


16 posted on 05/21/2013 5:19:45 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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I hate those commercials! It ends with saying, 'join conservatives and end de-facto amnesty, now'; conservatives don't want this bill and we don't have de-facto amnesty, we have a lawless regime in power and if the RINO's had any guts, they would take action in seeing enforcement of the law rather than trying to pass some BS reform bill.

Rubio is a traitor and IS NOT the candidate TEA PARTY members thought they were sending to Washington. Rush Limbaugh is dead wrong in his support of Rubio

17 posted on 05/21/2013 5:22:14 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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Sure do hope you guys are rounding up new Republican voters to replace the Charlie Crist crowd ~ you not only got rid of him, he had friends ~ which is hard to believe, but they took their votes with him!

We had a similar problem around here with Tom Davis in the House. The Republican legislature finally caved and tossed in enough Democrats that it wouldn't be worth him running again, and now we have a Democrat district ~ a PERMANENT ONE! Used to be competitive but that's all gone.

As long as Davis' "friends on the other side" had Tom to vote for they'd vote the rest of the ballot Republican as well. So, he was a RINO ~ nothing new about those guys, but if you don't have replacement voters, getting rid of a RINO can destroy a vote to organize the House, or the Senate, or the state legislature, or the county council, or the city council, or....... the soil and water conservation board.

18 posted on 05/21/2013 5:25:09 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Any politician who argues that "doing nothing is de-facto amnesty" is openly admitting that they will refuse to uphold the law, which is their job.

These are arguments for dismissal, not new legislation.

19 posted on 05/21/2013 5:29:49 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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Message to Ryan and Rubio from the majority of the American people: Take your fake “conservative” support for amnesty, stick it in your pipe, and smoke it, because we weren’t buying it back in 2007, and we’re certainly not buying it now.

Well written article, and I think the above sentence focuses on support for amnesty not being a conservative position. I agree with that.

I do think, however, that Rubio is a conservative. I think Ryan is a bit of a moderate.

When everything is laid out, though, the one thing in the ad that I agree with is that doing nothing means we're stuck with what we now have, and what we now have is uncontrolled illegal entry, illegal access to tons of taxpayer paid social services, and a national security plan that is a joke.

How would I fix it?

First, I'd put tariffs on every nation that is the source of illegal immigrants.

Next, I'd cancel the American income tax and incorporate a straight sales tax.

Finally, I'd build an identical copy of the fence that separates Israel from its enemies.

Anything less that the fence is a joke. The sales tax takes away a huge chunk of the ability to dodge taxes and responsibilities by both illegal immigrant and those that hire them. The tariffs provide incentives for the source of illegals to consider aiding in the control of their own people.

20 posted on 05/21/2013 5:31:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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