Posted on 05/06/2013 1:57:18 PM PDT by True Grit
I was doing a radio interview this morning and the host asked me why the Department of Homeland Security needed 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. The easy answer for me was, “They don’t.” Of course the follow-up question for him was, “Then why are they buying it?”
And that’s the billion-dollar question isn’t it. What is the federal government going to do with all that ammo? Why do they need it? Why are they buying it? It’s unprecedented. Are we on the cusp of physical domination by the United States Federal Government? And, if so, how will the American people react?
The talk show host also asked me, “If the people were to rebel, how could they ever possibly hope to prevail against a government so big, so huge, so powerful and so ruthless?”
He had a good point.
I mean, let’s face it: they have Predator drones, spy satellites, and sophisticated online surveillance and communication systems. How could the American people ever hope to prevail in a fighting war?
Sure, we barely prevailed over the British in our original war for independence, but that was different. Great Britain was based thousands of miles away, and it took 30 days to cross the Atlantic. That was a huge benefit to the colonists. We no longer have that. The federal government is right here, right now, and firmly cemented into state and local law enforcement. The talk show host argued there was no hope of prevailing over a government so massive and powerful.
Was he right?
I brought up the Taliban and the Viet Cong as recent examples of how to defeat a large military in a techno-driven war. In the end, the Taliban will win, just as the Viet Cong did. In truth, only three percent of the colonists actively fought against the British in our war for independence. But three percent was enough.
But the big question is this: Are there still three percent of the American population with the courage and resolve to fight against an out-of-control, tyrannical government? My short answer is: I think so.
Of course, we all have our lines in the sand.
1. I will fight when they force gun registration. 2. I will fight when they come for my guns. 3. I will fight when they come for me.
No matter where you fall on that list, it puts you in the precarious position of defying the all-powerful Obama of Oz. Who is the man behind the curtain, pulling the strings, calling the shots, planning out the final moves to dismantle our liberty?
Is it Barack Obama or some other unseen dark and evil minion?
I don’t know.
Sherman marched to Atlanta burning everything in his path.
(See tag line.)
Can you folks believe we are having this conversation. A good friend of mine literally laughed at me when I brought up the possibility just three years ago. Now he, and other friends of mine, feel that civil war is inevitable. It breaks my heart.
Have seen the number 250 million guns tossed around, and the number of firearms owners in the US estimated at 180 Million gun owners. I think that is understated. Estimates for Texas is 50 million guns. That is 2+ per every man, woman & child in the state. Confiscation is not near in Texas. Nor is subjection, it is against the pattern in the DNA.
I agree, also I would like to point out the prevalence of “Fragging” during the Viet Nam War. An unjust war or a Civil War, it doesn’t take long before the troops start looking for a way out of it. In either case there is the ABSOLUTE need for trust and fidelity amongst the troops and their officers. When it is gone... All hell breaks loose behind the lines.
I don't know about the military, but the militarized police are chomping-at-the-bit to shoot US civilians.It's a big country and it depends on the locale. I am blessed by local LEO's who would stand with and defend the people they serve. So if you can, find a location with a constitutionally-minded sheriff and enjoy some peace of mind in that regard. If you can't, best of luck to you.
They were seeking pretty hard in the Senate of late with Toomey/Manchin. Perhaps I am geting paranoid but I feel attempt will come from EPA or DHS or the IRS as a regulatory move that, I believe will become open defiance of the congress, the USSC, and the Constitution. I believe we are living in the political end times right now. Something major is going to go down before 2014 unless the Obamanites believe they have sufficient control of the vote count. The electronic voting machines, especially the touch screen models should be considered to be compromised totally. If they have control in 2014 then they can let it stretch out a little longer but voting day 2016 will make them nervous, even if they think they have the count in hand. 2015 looks to be a dangerous year.
The world’s largest standing army =
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XjSSUC8IlY
and that’s ONLY the REGISTERED hunters -
I imagine the numbers of gun owners reach at least double that - maybe far more if we add in all the new owners that have ‘armed up’ in the last coupla years -
Tthere is a heightened willingness to kill civilians when the troops feel they are not part of the population they are firing on, that the target citizenry are their oppressors. That is being addressed by the homosexualization and feminization of the soldiery and the recruiting of ethnic minorities that have been the target of generations of victim propaganda. Then there are the drone "pilots," socially dysfunctional techies playing video games. Killing enough goblins sends them up to the next level...
Of course!
Our Elected Officials are U.S. Citizens, and I would think no Soldier would hesitate to fire on them if ever gave such an order.
I guess my point was more along the lines of it being an individual effort - and it won’t do any good. Not too worried about the label. Heck, even on FR there have been articles where some militia type has been killed and he is easily dismissed as a nutcase. (No doubt some are).
But the fight needs to be coordinated and organized. Beginning in the political and legal landscape, with other options available if those fail. So far in many cases the conservatives have been successful. In many cases not (Colorado, NY, New Hampshire, etc.) But the idea of one lone guy standing on his front porch shouting “Molon Labe” (options #2 and #3) just doesn’t make any sense in creating any real reform.
Did you ask your son if he would fire upon U.S. civilians?
“Will American Soldiers Fire on U.S. Citizens?”
Of course they will. And with enthusiasm. Remember Waco?
“But the big question is this: Are there still three percent of the American population with the courage and resolve to fight against an out-of-control, tyrannical government?”
To put the question more pointedly, How many are willing that they and their families die in that fight?
American Soldiers? maybe. Foreign soldiers? %100 yes.
The difference between the fifties of the last century and now in the matter of freedom is tremendous. In my small town in 1959 the only government presence was the sheriff. He was corrupt and a tyrant but that did not impinge on 90 percent of the people. The state government was represented by a highway patrol station outside of town. One could go a year and not bump into the federal government at all. Now everything you do has to be cleared by some state orfederal bureaucrat somewhere and the legal bribery (fees and such) is geometrically more expensive than the minor baksheesh of 65 years ago.
But they do have copies of all these posts and comments and their equpment traces everything. They have attached most, if not all, of out names to these posts. I considered some time ago, when Bush first got his Homeland Security apparatus passed through Congress, that I should stop posting to these boards but then I knew that everything is archived and nothing really goes away on the net and I had been posting for several years already do it doesn't matter.
It's just a computer program. Humans aren't doing it, but when n apparatchik queries for "enemies" in xx location he gets a pretty complete list of names and addresses and whatever information is on drivers' licenses and and such.
When the time comes your marine will be sidelined or gone. I am sure all the troops are graded for "reliability" and will be deployed accordingly.
Nor my nephew, a Lt. when he graduates.
Good point. Perhaps I was imprecise. It would be better to say that the line is when they pass registration. Lib nutjobs will always be seeking registration. Passage of a law, or attempted imposition by executive fiat, would be the line. At that point it's time to get ready for imminent action. When they come for the guns, it's time for the fight, because once they get the guns, we are all subjects.
Wrong question. The question you need to be asking is will American Soldiers fire on local SWAT teams and the DHS. Not that either question matters all that much since the bulk of the military is on the other side of the planet.
Obama, Holder et al have been signalling pretty hard that that executive fiat is coming. We can hope that O’Lenin’s innate cowardice will abort it or put it off. I think we are really fighting Valerie Jarret clique.
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