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Salon.com: Look, White Caucasian Boston Bombing Squirrels! (Are Tsarnaev brothers white?)
Legal Isurrection ^ | Monday, April 22, 2013 at 11:30 | Posted by William A. Jacobson

Posted on 04/22/2013 3:09:11 PM PDT by drewh

Salon.com: Look, White Caucasian Boston Bombing Squirrels! Posted by William A. Jacobson Monday, April 22, 2013 No one cares about the skin color of the Boston Marathon Bombers except to push back against people like David Sirota of Salon.com who infamously hoped that a “white American” was responsible, and others in the media and left-blogosphere who were hoping that another Timothy McVeigh-looking person was the perp.

I’m sure the victims don’t care about skin color.

The push to make the Whiteness or Non-Whiteness of the bombers an issue continues with just as much gusto at Salon.com and elsewhere after it turned out that the bombers were Chechen Jihadists.

Joan Walsh of Salon.com, responding to criticism of Sirota’s Great White Hope, writes: Are the Tsarnaev brothers white?

But are we sure the Tsarnaevs aren’t white? They are quite literally Caucasian, as in from the Caucuses: Rebecca Eisenberg helps with this handy map. And ethnically in this country, we count Americans of Russian descent, as well as Chechens, as white. Dzhokhar was a naturalized American citizen; Tamarlan had applied for citizenship but reportedly didn’t get it because of FBI concerns about his possible ties to Islamic radicals.

So why are the Tsarnaev brothers not white, at least to right-wingers? Is it only because they’re Muslim? Muslim immigrants? Or is it because they’re “bad,” and whiteness must be surrendered when white people are bad? …

These days, though, Americans of Russian or Chechen descent are unambiguously categorized as “white” by the U.S. Census Bureau, which says it counts as white all “people having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. It includes people who reported ‘White’ or wrote in entries such as Irish, German, Italian, Lebanese, Near Easterner, Arab, or Polish.” As I wrote Friday, the anguished outburst of Ruslan Tsarni, the brothers’ uncle in Maryland, was the quintessentially American cry of a newcomer wanting to be identified as a good, patriotic American – not necessarily as white, but certainly not as suspicious “other.”

So conservatives’ insistence the Tsarnaevs are absolutely not white is curious, to say the least.

This analysis of Whiteness is shallow, to put it mildly. Chechnya (to be distinguished from The Czech Republic!) is in the Caucuses, and there’s no one as “White” as someone who comes from the region from which the term Caucasian was derived. Right?

This is complete nonsense and a distraction for two reasons. First, when it comes to skin color, we need to Stop using the word “Caucasian” to mean white:

About four years ago blogger emeritus RPM of evolgen brought into sharp relief an issue which has nagged me:

Caucasian, literally, refers to people native to the Caucasus, but it has become interchangeable with any number of ‘White’ populations, most of wh1om trace their ancestry to Europe. One gets the feeling that the term ‘White’ fell out of favor and was replaced by ‘Caucasian’ much like ‘Black’ was replaced by ‘African-American’. But the roots of such terminology are a bit disturbing; it was postulated that the natives of the Caucasus exhibited the idealized physical appearance so the Caucasus were believed to be the birthplace of mankind. The logic behind this idea — the assumption that Whites exhibit the best physical appearance — is implicitly racist. Additionally, we now know our species first appeared in Africa, so the biology isn’t any good either. The connotations of the term Caucasian along with the geographical absurdity of using that term to describe all Europeans or Whites are the two main reasons we should abandon the term.

… The Caucasus mountains bound the Middle East on the north, and the real Caucasians are to some extent a liminal Middle Eastern population. This gets really dumbfounding for the stupid people who ask and answer questions of the form “are Armenians white?” on the internet. After all, the Armenians are indubitably Caucasian, and Caucasian is white, right? Compare the subtly of a regular dictionary definition of Caucasian, to the straightforward acknowledgement of the idiocy of the common usage of the term in urban dictionary.

Derek Thompson at Slate.com asks Why do we say that white people came from the area of Chechnya and Kyrgyzstan and Dagestan?

Wait, do white people really come from the Caucasus?

It’s highly unlikely. There are scholarly disagreements about how and when some of our dark-skinned ancestors developed lighter skin, but research suggests humans moved across the Asian and European continents about 50,000 years ago.

Second, “White” is an incredibly broad term as defined for U.S. Census purposes:

White. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as “White” or report entries such as Irish, German, Italian, Lebanese, Arab, Moroccan, or Caucasian.

That’s a really broad range, rendering the Census term “White” meaningless when it comes to skin color. Bedouins and Scandinavians are all “White.”

The more important question is not whether the bombers were “White” or “Caucasian” but why Salon.com is obsessed with the Whiteness or non-Whiteness of the bombers.

It has nothing to do with skin color.

It’s all about distracting from the abysmal attempt to pin the bombing on the right-wing and Tea Party by reference to the indisputably “White” Timothy McVeigh, and to evade the questions the left does not want to face as to Jihadism, whether “homegrown” or international.

Look, White Caucasian Boston Bombing Squirrels!

I will grant Salon.com one thing. They do know a lot about ”Whiteness” and squirrels.


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To: drewh

They are Muslims and like a huge percentage of Muslims, filled with hate for non-Muslims since birth.


41 posted on 04/22/2013 4:04:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: 3Fingas
I'm holding out for them being hereditary madmen of a very long line of madmen.

It is islamic doctrine to make use of such people ~ one of the reasons given is that they imagine the mentally ill to simply be getting punished for sins in their prior lives, so why not!

We now know of the genetic basis for schizophrenia. It can probably be cured, or treated. Leftwingtardism and islam probably can't.

42 posted on 04/22/2013 4:05:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: drewh

The author is an idiot - the “hope” was that it was done by “white american” men, which the slime-bags were not.

The fervent “hope” was that muslims wouldn’t be blamed - WRONG!

The “white” has never been part of the formula from any “right-wingers” I’ve heard or read.

It is SO easy to build a straw white-man and knock him down with some insipid Caucasis nonsense.


43 posted on 04/22/2013 4:08:25 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: muawiyah

Genetic predisposition towards terrorism...interesting.

Really, in this case, it appears that nurture was stronger than nature.

Both terrorists were normal enough a few years ago. Both participated in athletics and even did some things other teens like to do such as drinking and partying.

It appears the older brother started to turn based on his exposure to the ideas of radical islam. He then was further influenced and possibly trained by others while on his trip to Russia.

When he came back, he finished the brainwashing of his younger brother (apparently he had already been trying to radicalize him for a couple of years before). They formed a death pact to do jihad, seeking their 72 virgins in the afterlife or whatever motivates such people.

Point is: this was an outside influence that metastasized into a cancer.


44 posted on 04/22/2013 4:18:58 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: drewh

They’re white with a good Asian admixture from the Mongols, Turks and other invaders from the East. You can see a little Asian in Dzhokar especially. But then again, so what? Who freaking cares? Libs are really a bunch of racist fools.


45 posted on 04/22/2013 4:25:19 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: drewh
So conservatives’ insistence the Tsarnaevs are absolutely not white is curious, to say the least.

Wait...what? Who said that? I never heard anybody say they aren't "white." I swear, if liberals didn't have strawmen they wouldn't have men at all.

46 posted on 04/22/2013 4:30:23 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: muawiyah

Can we all agree they’re not WASPs, which most people do associate with the Tea Party.


47 posted on 04/22/2013 4:32:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: drewh
Fatuous nonsense. But you can still have a little fun with it. Our Affirmative Action Rep was a Chicago lady, new to Idaho, and so when I told her loudly "I don't see a check box for Aryan" she sort of freaked out. She's grown a thicker skin since, but I think the damage may have been permanent.

I have to wonder, though. I don't think the most paranoid KKK member was anywhere near as obsessed with race as today's liberals appear to be. I've stopped worrying about them voting and started worrying about them driving.

48 posted on 04/22/2013 4:41:27 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 3Fingas
Seems there's an enzyme that keeps the brain repaired during the developmental stages, and then some time between 17 and maybe 28, you stop producing it.

That's right on top the timeline for onset of schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder.

They, and three other mental conditions are now linked to a group of genes that affect brain development.

So, yes, hereditary terrorism ~ and both brothers fall within the parameters, and they are descendants of people who are members of a group well known for this for thousands of years.

Some of us have been privileged (I know that's not the right term for it) to observe more than one person sink into madness. One day they're 'normal'. The next day not, and it gets worse over time and then you finally notice they've fallen into a fetal position but are otherwise growling ~ and they can't take care of themselves anymore. Others are aware ~ they fight back ~ they fight you ~ and sometimes they undertake self-medication. That can take the form of binge drinking, or maybe constant prayer.

Sometimes there's a recovery of sorts, but all that does is convince them that what they did to defy the condition is the right thing to do.

The older brother turned to religion ~ strenuous religion ~ with hard rules ~ and the younger brother is just now in the age range for this to strike.

There are articles on the internet about how people with schizophrenia RECOVERED. I"d like to see the 25 year follow-ups! There are other articles on how the condition can be treated, but that's mostly treatment with zonk drugs; more about the dosages that don't kill than anything else.

A lucky few don't exactly recover, but they learn to live with it and appreciate the moments of sanity between months of drugged stupification ~ one I met was an analyst of some sort at Langley much appreciated for his ability to read strange languages ~ when he was sane. Otherwise he liked to sit around naked and meditate over a bowl of psychotropic drugs of various kinds.

Friend of mine had him over for poker once ~ he couldn't even get a driver's license but he found someone to drive him down to the apartments. Being schizophrenic doesn't mean you can't have friends.

Another friend pulled 4 tours in Nam and then discovered the delights of thorazine ~ and otherwise had a fairly mild case except when he did things that would send him to federal prison. We exchange Christmas cards ~ he always has a new address.

Those are the highlights. I have known far worse ~ fellow in the dorm decided to sit on top of his study desk and wouldn't get down for days and days and finally they took him away. That was OVERNIGHT.

I knew Rusty Calley ~ definitely a nut case; and the Barnhart brothers who robbed banks as an occupation ~ can't get a job if you can't avoid beating up the boss and that sort of thing. Then, the interstate car thieves ~ they made use of these guys in the early stages ~

I"m holding out for these guys being head cases ~ evil head cases ~ being used by either the Boston mob, or the leftwingtards, or the Islamofascists. Mostly they don't think this stuff up on their own

49 posted on 04/22/2013 4:47:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dfwgator

I don’t use that term ~ first, no Anglo Saxons in the line, second, it was invented as an acronymn of derision.


50 posted on 04/22/2013 4:48:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Gluteus Maximus
The mongols are called something else and live quite a ways away from the Chechnyan part of the mountains. However, another group mentioned in the deportations are the mongolian origin Crimean Tartars. Some of them live in the Gary/Hammond/East Chicago region. Although technically moslem, I did know one of them in college and his family retained a lot of Buddhist traditions.

As the parsis say frequently, "all things are pos si bul" ~ doing the hands together, or upraised palms lotus fashion!

51 posted on 04/22/2013 4:52:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: drewh

Yes, they’re white and they’re Moslem. One prediction that started a few years back was that the jihadist groups would begin to recruit white Moslems because they’d have a better chance of going undetected in some types of terrorist operations.

These two might or might not have been recruited, but they are white and we might find more white Moslems in future terrorist operations.


52 posted on 04/22/2013 5:01:49 PM PDT by Will88
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To: drewh

I always have thought they are “brown people”.


53 posted on 04/23/2013 2:00:56 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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