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To: Jeff Winston; Ray76

The fallacy in your post is that you equate “citizen” with “natural born citizens.”

Must you be reminded that while all natural born citizens are citizens not all citizens are natural born citizen.”

You do know that but choose to ignore it in total.....

If what you are trying to prove is correct....that all citizens are Natural born citizens, then what would be the purpose of the Article II requirement for natural born citizenship.....simple citizenship would do.


239 posted on 04/02/2013 11:08:14 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Forty-Niner
The fallacy in your post is that you equate “citizen” with “natural born citizens.”

No, I don't equate the two.

There are two kinds of citizens: Those born citizens, and those who have been naturalized.

But it is clear from all early authorities that those BORN citizens IN AMERICA were very clearly considered to be natural born citizens.

I was simply responding to the false statement that the 1779 Virginia citizenship law required people born in Virginia to have citizen parents in order to be citizens.

There WAS one requirement for that law, though. It only extended Virginia citizenship to WHITE persons born in Virginia.

If what you are trying to prove is correct....that all citizens are Natural born citizens, then what would be the purpose of the Article II requirement for natural born citizenship.....simple citizenship would do.

Once again, not all citizens are natural born citizens. However, those who are BORN citizens, are.

The purpose of the Article II requirement is to prevent people who were not born United States citizens, but were instead naturalized into citizenship, from being elected President.

249 posted on 04/03/2013 12:14:31 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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