“To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
Obama was given the opportunity to restore his natural born citizenship status within 6 months after he reached the age of majority because he was issued a CLN as a minor.
Since he chose to remain as an Indonesian National living as a Permanent Resident Alien living in America after he reached the age of majority,he lost the opportunity to restore his natural born citizenship status 6 months after his 18th birthday.
In 1983,Obama completed the process of naturalization to become a U.S. Citizen. The Department of Homeland Security is discharged with the duty of maintaining the records of U.S. Citizens issued a Certificate of Naturalization. U.S. Federal documents supercede state records,hospital records or medical personnel affidavits concerning a birth. The U.S. Federal Government says he naturalized in 1983 and that’s final. He’s ineligible to be President of the U.S.
24 posted on Tue Apr 02 2013 12:02:12 GMT-0500 (CDT) by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
Bluecat6, (cold case posse supporter FYI)
So Sven asserting 0 was an NBC was wrong in this post?
“So Sven asserting 0 was an NBC was wrong in this post?”
Obama’s birth record and nativity biography are irrelevant. In 1983, the U.S. Federal Government issued him a Certificate of Naturalization to become a U.S. citizen. The Federal document supersedes any document any state can produce on Obama’s birth record.
Citizenship is not held in perpetuity for individuals who move out of the country, commits acts which are deemed to have renounced their citizenship and express an intent to relinquish their U.S. Citizenship.
For example, Laurence Terrazas was born in Maryland to a U.S. Citizen mother and a Mexican National father. Terrazas was considered a U.S. Citizen and Mexican National at birth. In his early 20’s, Terrazas moved to Mexico to attend the university. University officials told him had to renounce his U.S. Citizenship and state an oath of allegiance to Mexico or he would be suspended from the univerity.
Terrazas told Mexican authorities he renounced his U.S. Citizenship and pledge his sole allegiance to Mexico. U.S. Sec of State Cyrus Vance issued Terrazas a CLN based on his renouncement and pledge to Mexican authorities. Terrazas sued and SCOTUS upheld the issuance of the CLN to Terrazas.
See Vance v. Terrazas, 444 U.S. 252 (1980), was a United States Supreme Court decision that established that a United States citizen cannot have his or her citizenship taken away unless he or she has acted with an intent to give up that citizenship. The Supreme Court overturned portions of an act of Congress which had listed various actions and had said that the performance of any of these actions could be taken as conclusive, irrebuttable proof of intent to give up U.S. citizenship. However, the Court ruled that a person’s intent to give up citizenship could be established through a standard of preponderance of evidence (i.e., more likely than not) — rejecting an argument that intent to relinquish citizenship could only be found on the basis of clear, convincing and unequivocal evidence.
Bluecat6, (cold case posse supporter FYI)
So Sven asserting 0 was an NBC was wrong in this post?
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I believe that was based being born in Hawaii. I am not sure I would agree with that.
But the key point is that it would not matter if O had to naturalize.
Naturalization is opposite of natural born. They can not and do not intersect or overlap.
The Constitution says you must BE a natural born Citizen. It does not say you qualify if you WERE a natural born Citizen.
A naturalized citizen is not natural born.
Simple way to address this - show the passport records.