[AndyTheBear]

Then I think the proper answer to him is to point that out, and leave it at that. He's presented a flawed argument that starts from an bad premise. Trying to engage his argument by adopting his premise isn't going to help one bit.

Hmmm, well there is more that needs to be said than pointing out his conflation of of ideas, but it might be a place to start. It is not as though the issue of naturalism vs super-naturalism is orthogonal to abiogenisis or common origin. All naturalist cosmologies pretty much have to adopt both, where young earth super-natural cosmologies must reject both. Only people who favor a super-natural cosmologies of an old universe can be approach them without some bias.

[tacticalogic]

Only people who favor a super-natural cosmologies of an old universe can be approach them without some bias.

I'm one of those. From that perspective, the abuses of semantics and logic that go on in these debates is an abject failure of intellectual ethics and reason.