How Will They Confiscate Your Guns?

Keep And Bear Arms ^ | July 21, 2000 | John A. Sutter

[2ndDivisionVet]

For decades I have heard gun owners claim that the government would never be able to confiscate our firearms because the government would lose too many men. The implication being, of course, that gun owners would actively resist confiscation, even to the point of shooting back. But I believe this thinking is outdated and doesn’t align very well with reality. But before you tell me how big your honor guard in Hell will be when that day comes, let’s think about how the government could really do it.

Suppose, for the sake of argument, the government bans all civilian possession of firearms at the end of this month. Congress passes a total ban and the President cuts his own re-election throat by signing it. Gun owners get some grace period to turn them in, even beyond the deadline, without being charged with a crime. If we use Australia and Britain as examples there will still be a significant number of firearms that are not turned in. Some estimates put the Australian turn-in at less than 25% and the British faired only about 28%. But Australians and the British have long been used to obeying almost every gun control law. Not so the Americans. When laws are passed that we don’t like, we bite. We scratch. We vote. So here we sit after the guns have been collected and the amnesties have run out. Now what? Send out the personnel carriers, swat and shock troops to seize the guns from those militia “terrorists” who refused to turn them in? Don’t be silly.

The government has lots of records about you. If you purchased a firearm since 1968, chances are that they have some record of it somewhere....

[45Auto]

Yes, and now after Heller and McDonald, we have a hell of a lot more legal ammunition then we had back in 1994.

[TigersEye]

No, none of my ammo does either. Nor do any of the components for every cartridge I need that I stocked up on. Almost no one I know owns guns with paper on them. Mostly because they don’t buy new. Since the ‘90s because they saw which way the wind is blowing.

[heshtesh]

A local police officer/friend just called me a half hour ago and asked if I was intrested in 6 tins 50 rnds. .223 for 30.00 each, told him to bring them over.:)

[2ndDivisionVet]

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

[babygene]

How would the “state” possibly know if I dad any guns? which of course I don’t...

Even if I did when I was a younger man, that doesn’t mean that I do now.

[TigersEye]

You oughta have a nice hot dinner waiting for that guy! ;-)

[Ajnin]

I don’ think there is going to be any widespread confiscation of firearms. We keep engaging in this “Unintended Consequences” fantasy because we wish the liberals would allows us to literally destroy them.

Instead they are going to stick to what has been working and continue the propaganda. They are going to continue to suspend the kiddies for even thinking about guns. Holder let the cat out of the bag some time ago when he stated that people need to be brain washed about guns in the same way people were brainwashed about tobacco.

That’s is why simply buying guns and ammo isn’t enough to stop these tyrants. If that is all we do then one day we will all be sitting on a pile of guns and ammo with no freedom.

[Red in Blue PA]

Every LEO needs to rest their head on a pillow each night.....as do their families. If they want war, they had better prepare for it because it will not be pretty.

[MasterGunner01]

Thinking back to Waco and what FedGov did to the Branch Davidians, I was at a big gun show in Vegas after this act of government terrorism had occurred. There was a lot of talk at the time of how to respond if the feds decided to replicate this raid. The opinion was that the feds had better have a perimeter defense that looked outwards (to their backs) besides looking forward towards their intended victims. In short there were a lot of people who decided that the best way to handle the federal trash was start picking them off as targets of opportunity. Whether it was coming, going, changing shifts, or whatever, these guys were wearing bull's eyes. If the dopes doing the dirty deeds started assuming room temperature, they tend to get unhappy with their task. This is especially true when your enemies aren't just in front of you, but all around you. It sure sucks to be General Custer at Little Big Horn, doesn't it, boys? Not going home to momma or collecting that fat government pension — it sucks, dude.

[Noumenon]

Total gun confiscation in the US will not be attempted - at least by anyone who is sane.

See, there's your problem. They aren't merely insane. They are also evil. Monstrously so. There will be only one way to stop them.

[EandH Dad]

The flip side of your scenario is that one innocent citizen, perhaps even a child, is killed by the storm troopers of the BATF&EIEIO. The backlash would turn the confiscators into trophies in open season. Even the vast majority of libs would tell them to stand down but at that point you wouldn’t find anyone to be on the gun grab team. I have yet to find anyone in any uniform say they would confiscate the first one. Not happening. The last figure I heard was 65 million sold since Nov. 2008. The paperwork on just those would deforest the country.

[grumpygresh]

The key thing is gun registration. After government officials create a new list, or if they can accurately compile a list from existing information, they will send out annoying, but seemingly innocuous notices. Governments will exact compliance by revoking “privileges” such as drivers licenses, professional and business licenses, permits etc, etc. essentially depriving most the ability to earn a living. Operating a business, car, truck or whatever w/o a license or permit will expose the violator to fines, investigations, and prosecutions.
These types of prosecutions would be most effectively conducted at the state and municipal level. That’s why we need to especially focus resistance at the state and local level.

[TigersEye]

Instead they are going to stick to what has been working...

How has it been working?

The Dem/libs have been engaging in a steady push to infringe on our right to keep and bear arms for decades. And this is how it has been working out for them in the last two decades...

• The percentage of Americans who own guns has increased.
• The percentage of Americans who believe we have a right to own guns has increased.
• The number of guns owned per gun owner has increased.
• The amount of ammunition possessed per gun owner has increased.
• Concealed carry laws have spread from state to state like wildfire.
• Castle Doctrine laws have been passed in numerous states that didn't have them.
• Stand Your Ground laws have been passed in more states than had them before.
• Gun rights lobbying groups have become a cottage industry unto themselves sprouting up like mushrooms after a rainstorm.
• In the worst economy since the Great Depression the firearms industry can't keep up with orders or expand fast enough.
• 65.4 Million Guns Bought Since Obama Took Office, 91% More Than Bush's First-Term Total

And in the last two months... (Dec. 2012 and Jan. 2013)

• Americans Buy Enough Guns in Last Two Months to Outfit the Entire Chinese and Indian Armies
• NRA membership has increased by 250,000.

[bunkerhill7]

Sparklers are illegal in NY State but gasoline ain`t.

[MasterGunner01]

Obongo and his ilk are NOT sane. They intend to provoke a civil war so he can unleash DHS and the other FedGov thugs to murder Americans. To answer Claire Wolfe's question, it is too late. Votes will be done by other means.

[Eye of Unk]

Ill tell anyone what will happen, all across America there will be staged supposed holdouts, intel will be leaked about hardliners and some massive cache of arms and ammo.

The collection agencies will roll out in force and from every single direction of the compass will be snipers, underground tunnels with sappers, tank traps, IEDs, flamethrowers, fuel air explosives, you name it and the people will build it, it will be a slaughterhouse. Think of Waco but with all the resources of Afghan vets at work. And most of America.

The scales of supremacy is NO LONGER on the Federal side, and if they don’t know that then just what can you say?

[Dubh_Ghlase]

My fellow Freepers: Be careful how you answer this thread so as to not give out too much info, especially about yourself. Call me paranoid, but you aren't paranoid if they REALLY ARE out to get you...!

There's a storm coming...

[usconservative]

But I believe this thinking is outdated and doesn’t align very well with reality.

I'd encourage the author of this piece of crap to try knocking on my door and taking my guns. G'ahead ... make my day.

[atc23]

Sure

[umgud]

How would the “state” possibly know if I dad any guns? which of course I don’t...

Many states already have registration. Here in CA all sales (save some curio long guns) have to be thru a dealer. If you're buying a handgun, it will be registered. As of Jan 2014, all long guns will be registered too. I have handguns that aren't registered as I bought them before the registration law.