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To: Errant; MestaMachine; F15Eagle; cyn; 444Flyer; onyx; MrB; Yehuda; left that other site; ...
Thanks for the updated itinerary! There was one published on the 12th but was I think was not at that time etched in stone, so to speak.

Here is the portion that drew my attention:

Obama will then fly to Jerusalem directly to Peres' residence where he'll again be ceremoniously received.

He will continue with Peres and Netanyahu to Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum, where he will lay a wreath in the Hall of Remembrance.

The next stop will be Mount Herzl, where Obama will lay a wreath on Herzl's tomb as a gesture to Zionism. Obama will continue to Yitzhak Rabin's tomb, laying a wreath there as well.

The Obamanation will descend upon Jerusalem and the first places he will hit are...

...hallowed place after hallowed place after hallowed place.

The Hall of Remembrance

In 1961, Yad Vashem inaugurated the Hall of Remembrance, the first Holocaust commemoration site established at Yad Vashem on the Mount of Remembrance.

The Hall is an imposing structure, with walls made of basalt boulders brought from the area surrounding the Sea of Galilee, and an angular roof that gives it a tent-like shape. Engraved on the mosaic floor are the names of 22 of the most infamous Nazi murder sites, symbolic of the hundreds of extermination and concentration camps, transit camps and killing sites that existed throughout Europe.

The Eternal Flame, burning from a base fashioned like a broken bronze goblet, continuously illuminates the Hall, its smoke exiting the building through an opening at the highest point of the ceiling. Before it stands a stone crypt containing the ashes of Holocaust victims, brought to Israel from the extermination camps.

A focal point of commemoration to this day, the Hall of Remembrance serves as Yad Vashem’s premier site for memorial ceremonies.

I pretty much stay away from the Daniel and/or crucifixion timeline discussions because I hold to many ideas/theories/interpretations lightly, because I believe future events will make the truth obvious, but not beforehand. Kind of like a jigsaw puzzle. You can complete the border and separate much by color, but not until certain pieces fit into their correct places can the next ones be placed correctly.

Anyway, here we are trying to look at this Obama visit. It's an obamanation regardless of any specific doctrinal beliefs, because as is typical, he defiles, profanes, and desecrates ALL manner of places, traditions, and institutions held sacred by Americans; therefore, the same "respect" instinctively spills over to Israel, the Jewish People, and to their sacred hallowed places as well.

I am of the mind that the *prophet* Daniel is Daniel when he spoke in the role of a prophet. That would be in chapters 2, 4, and 5. But he was not a prophet to Judah, only a "passive" recipient of visions that confused Daniel himself.

Daniel was a prophet to the Kings of Babylon, IOW the Gentile world leaders of the day.

The dreams of Nebuchadnezzar and the writing on the palace wall had the same theme... that the king of Babylon was going to be cut down from his lofty height.

Belshazzar was truly without excuse. Daniel didn't need to fast and pray for an interpretation of the writing of the wall. He knew history, and understood the end result of the king's abject idolatry and arrogance. Belshazzar's toadies had no clue, but Daniel only needed to remind Belshazzar of the history of Nebuchadnezzar.

Daniel 5:20-25

20 But when his [Nebuchadnezzar's] heart was lifted up, and his mind hardened in pride, he was deposed from his kingly throne, and they took his glory from him:
21 And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses: they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will.
22 And thou his son, O Belshazzar, hast not humbled thine heart, though thou knewest all this;
23 But hast lifted up thyself against the Lord of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know: and the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified:
24 Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written.
25 And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.

Compare:

Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

The verses in Matthew exemplify the idiom that orginated with Daniel the prophet. That is,

When ye shall see (recognize ahead of time) the omen, the portend... then you read and understand the message that was "written on the wall".

Daniel knew the writing because the message of doom was already plain as day to anyone half paying attention. Belshazzar and his Belshazzar-bots were asleep at the switch. It was the idolatry and arrogance and the use and abuse of the sacred that was the omen signaling the fall of the king and the kingdom. The writing was there to well, put it down in writing, but the message had already gone out.

Obama:

Trashes of the Constitution
Appointments of the most loathesome characters to high positions of authority
Embraces any and all manner of depraved, corrupt persons
Expects that lawful, God-fearing people accept perversion as normal (or else)
Uses his power and authority to denegrate and destroy the family, marriage, military, and other honored institutions
Spends as much of the taxpayers' money as possible on perpetual vacations, and to raise money for himself
Lies with impunity
Mocks and blasphemes God
Loves Muslims
Attracts flies
Attracts mice

And then there are the:

Falling presidential seals
DEAD Seals
DEAD Ambassador

Etc.

This Obamanation rules by audacity and lawlessness.
SS code name: RENEGADE
Limo name: BEAST
He behaves as though the rules don't apply to him.

The writing is on the wall. Let him that readeth, understand.

This upcoming trip may merely be the point in time where it is all "put in writing".

Remember what he himself WROTE ON THE WALL (HaKotel) in 2008? All a modern-day Daniel would have to do is help Obama recall his own words.

 

On THE King David [hotel] letterhead, no less.

Obama will slither through the holy places (will the Ner TAMID go out?), then the next day he'll tour a model of the Temple. And then he is supposed to be anointed by Peres at the ceremonial dinner.

What could go wrong?

32 posted on 02/23/2013 5:56:03 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Ezekiel

// Obama will slither through the holy places //

*sigh*

(better to leave it there.)


37 posted on 02/23/2013 7:32:41 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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To: Ezekiel

If he ISN’T the AC, he does a darn good job of impersonating one.


38 posted on 02/23/2013 7:57:45 AM PST by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: Ezekiel
Obama is going to be awarded a 'medal' by Peres. More than coincidentally, Peres (like Obama) was awarded the 'Peace Prize' in 94' for what? Compromising with terrorists? He and Obama may have more in common then we know. If Peres is attempting an end run around Bibi at 'peace' he will be feeding the beast of Obama's ego on this visit by gifting him with his medal. One thing's for sure, by gifting him, he is propping up a phony public image of Obama as a 'friend' of Israel.


57 posted on 02/24/2013 8:11:45 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the Terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: Ezekiel; F15Eagle
I pretty much stay away from the Daniel and/or crucifixion timeline discussions because I hold to many ideas/theories/interpretations lightly, because I believe future events will make the truth obvious, but not beforehand. Kind of like a jigsaw puzzle. You can complete the border and separate much by color, but not until certain pieces fit into their correct places can the next ones be placed correctly.

Likewise, though I probably succumb to the temptation of conjecture more than yourself. :)

Btw, another thread has appeared on the topic: STUNNER! Obama Entering Jerusalem Same Day as JESUS DID!

64 posted on 02/28/2013 5:33:42 PM PST by Errant
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