Posted on 02/04/2013 9:24:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
President Obama recently proved that he shoots skeet, and now Piers Morgan can say he’s shot an AR-15. Morgan traveled to Texas today to find out what it’s like to shoot the gun “used in the last five mass shootings in America,” including Sandy Hook Elementary School.
Morgan interviewed the owner of a Houston gun range, as he took his turns firing various version of the AR-15 semi-automatic rifle with a 30-round magazine. His aim wasn’t perfect, but as Morgan said, “once I got the hang of it and began pressing the trigger faster and faster, it was just firing very, very fast.”
He proceeded to shoot an AR-15 that had been modified from semi-automatic to fully automatic, a procedure that is illegal, but as the range owner explained, fairly easy for individuals to do with parts that can be purchased legally. Morgan said it felt “unbelievably powerful.”(continued)
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No. A shotgun was left in the trunk.
If it shoots full-auto, it was either born that way or it is jailbait.
That said I'd HATE to have to try and prove when a weapon was modified. I have no idea what standard of documentaion would be required, but it would probabaly be more than you could produce. No thanks!
BS on display.
Thanks for the feedback
A Marlin 1895 Guide Gun in .45-70 would be a fun choice, too.
I thought that was the case but I was not sure.
Further, the Constitution authorizes Letter of Marque and Reprisal, so that private citizens with their own battleships could go take on the Barbary Pirates (Muslims taking Colonists slaves for sale in the Middle East and North Africa). We all know the lyric "To the shores of Tripoli"... this is what the Marine Hymn refers to.
So, Piers, how do you f-f-f-feel about the power of that firearm compared to a full-sized warship in private hands? Our forebears had FAR more firepower at their fingertips, WITH the blessings of our government, and over 200 years ago. Go ahead and tell us how "times have changed" and the "2nd Amendment doesn't apply to modern firearms" again.
Well, let’s see:
There’s a bit more material milled away at the top of the upper receiver. That’s probably not that difficult, but you need to know what to mill away. Oh, and you’ll need a mill.
The bolt carrier group in the M16/M4 has more mass - ie, there’s more material removed from the BCG on the AR-15. The additional mass of the BCG in the full-auto version helps slow down the cyclic rate of the rifle.
Difficulty: Well, you’d have to either find a M16 BCG, or add mass back to the AR-15 BCG. Adding mass back to the BCG could theoretically be done by making the additional sections of the BCG, filing them to fit, and assumes a skilled TIG welder to integrate them onto the existing BCG. Oh, and then we’re going to have to re-heat treat the BCG. I’d rate the difficulty as “high” without assuming a purchase of a M16 BCG.
Then there’s the changes in the trigger group. Let’s see if I can remember them all:
1. The tail of the trigger will be opened up in the center of the channel to allow the disconnector to ride through. Difficulty: Not that difficult with a small round file.
2. The disconnector has a “tail” on the M16 that just isn’t there. You’d have to find a new parts, or, make the tail and re-shape the existing material on the AR disconnector. Again, we’re assuming a skilled gunsmith with files and a TIG welder.
3. If you want burst-fire, then you need to find the burst disconnector.
4. The selector lever - you’d basically need to find a new one. Attempts to modify it for full auto would probably destroy it.
5. The M16 hammer has a “reverse hook” on it at the rear, to catch the full-auto disconnector. You’d need to make a new hammer or buy one. Welding on M16/AR-15 hammers and triggers will usually result in a molten blob of snot instead of a piece of metal.
I *think* that’s it, but I could be wrong. I don’t play with NFA stuff too often.
Thanks once again for your insight!
Piers probably just made up the illegal conversion part so that the gun owner would be investigated.
That's what I thought at first too. Go to the source of the article and watch the video clip. It turns out that Tactical Firearms is a licensed manufacturer of NFA Class III items. The owner described the procedure and said that the receiver needed to be modified and some parts needed to be swapped in to make it fully automatic. Piers asked if it were legal to do so and the owner waffled a bit and said buying the parts was legal but if you had both the AR-15 and the conversion parts it was criminal even if you had not assembled the full-auto weapon. Piers said well criminals wouldn't care would they and the owner replied no they wouldn't.
The owner did a reasonably good job of presenting a second amendment case on things in general but I think he should have shut up about conversions, bump firing and slide stocks. There is no point in giving Morgan more information that he will never understand but will try to twist into a full auto weapon behind every tree.
Regards,
GtG
The .223 cannot even be used for hunting in WA and many other states because it is considered to be an inhumane method to put down a deer.
Listening to the MSM, one would believe they are WMD’s.
“PING!”
Whenever my first one pops out at the range, all kinds of folks look, grin, comment, etc.
Pretty characteristic and identifying.
C
“PING!”
Whenever my first one pops out at the range, all kinds of folks look, grin, comment, etc.
Pretty characteristic and identifying.
C
Agreed
FReegards
Weird as it is, even when I cut loose with my .357 at the range folks seem to wake up a bit. I guess cause they are popping 9mm and .40cal and they aren’t quite as............attention getting as the .357.
I don’t think that’s true.
If they have a registered sear they can convert an AR into a fully automatic rifle.
People with registered HK sears have been converting HK 94’s into MP-5’s, legally, as well as converting AUG’s into full-auto with registered full-auto trigger packs.
Ed
Once when I shot a deer with a pistol (Ruger Redhawk, .44 mag), I had someone with me. He’d been rifle hunting for YEARS!
Anyhoo, when I let that pistol off and knocked that deer down at @ 65 yards, his eyes were...well, let’s just say you could see a lot of white in his eyes for a bit.
The muzzle blast and reach of that particular round/shot impressed him.
More than loud; it’s a physical concussion.
[Just goofing around, we’d videotaped that hunt. He barely got the camera on the deer when I shot and you can see where the bullet hit the deer. Pretty amazing.]
Me likey!
I think that in the case of HKs, Steyrs and many other modern guns the receivers of semis and machine guns are identical and the fire control groups are the discriminator, hence the registered sear. You would not run afoul of the NFA rules unless you converted a semiauto sear into a machine gun sear (which is probably impossible).
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