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To: butterdezillion

“We’ve got two numbering methods that have been publicly stated by HDOH representatives “

Have you heard the tape from Ms. Lee. Until we hear what she actually said it is not “publicly stated”.

I get alphabetizing from the known August, 1961 BCs. The ones from Kapiolani are in both alphabetical (by last name) order and numberical order.

I agree that we do not know the methodology used to number the BCs. Everything you and I have done on this question is just speculation on both of our parts. the difference is that I don’t depend on a department wide swapping of names and numbers over several months.

We will never see the microfilm. But I’ve always been surprised that if CNN could find Stig and WND could find Axxxx that other BCs from August 1961 could not be located. And I still cannot understand why Corsi has refused to publish Axxxx’s and Stig’s certificate numbers as part of the CCPs investigation. Even if only to make a claim that there is number switching going on at the DOH.


120 posted on 01/23/2013 11:00:46 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

If you look at the analysis at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/bc-number-manipulation-analysis.pdf you see that Sunahara’s BC# comes within the Honolulu births, which doesn’t work in ANY respect - with any numbering method, including the alphabetization one.

Waidelich’s BC# is 332 into the Honolulu BC’s; there would be 331 before him and 302 after him. That would mean 331 people with last names from A-V, and 302 people with last names starting with W, X, Y, and Z.

It’s not odd that Aug 1961 BC’s haven’t surfaced, given the threats that have been made to various people over this issue. The people I have spoken with who have ties to Hawaii are scared - even scared of going to the HDOH office to check things out. If I remember correctly, Corsi did not “find” Johanna Ah Nee’s BC; she offered it to him. And it seems like Dr. Conspiracy is very familiar with her details; I wonder if they know each other..

It’s interesting that you mentioned the unreliability of memories in an earlier post. Given the CDC’s statistics, about 30% (434/1,472)of the babies born in Hawaii in August of 1961 were white - not Black, not Asian/Hawaiian. Monika Waidelich remembered there being one Black baby (which she assumed was Obama) and one white baby (her son). Must have been a really weird 4-7 days at Kapiolani, that out of the 100-175 babies born in Honolulu during those 4-7 days, Kapiolani’s nursery only had one white baby and one Black baby, when 30% would equal 30-52 white babies born during those 4-7 days. Granted, that was a short experience for Mrs. Waidelich, and she might not have remembered very clearly.

Verna Lee has a distinct advantage at being able to remember the details she spoke about, because she worked at her job day in and day out for YEARS, following the routine procedures.

Do you acknowledge that the HDOH has been caught altering the 1960-64 birth index to include names from non-valid records? If so, why do you think they did that, and what other falsifying might they have they done with their records?


122 posted on 01/23/2013 11:47:22 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: 4Zoltan

Here’s how CNN found Stig Waidelich:

Swede provides ‘proof’ in Obama birth debate
The Local; Sweden’s News In English
Published: 29 Apr 11 07:01 CET

A Swedish woman, Monica Danielsson, 78, may have provided the last piece in a the puzzle on where US president Barack Obama was born, when CNN recently went to Hawaii finally lay the matter to rest.

“Obama was lying there next to my Stig in the bassinet and I remember him because he was the only black child there and I thought he was very cute,” she said to Swedish daily Expressen.

CNN recently sent reporter Gary Tuchman from the show ‘Andersson Cooper 360’ to Hawaii to find evidence that president Obama was born there.

While there, he quickly discovered an announcement in the birth columns of the local paper of a Stig Waidelich who was born in the same hospital the day after Obama.

“They then tried to track me down to compare my son’s birth certificate to the one provided by Obama,” Danielsson said.
Monica, who was borh in Traneberg in Stockholm, moved to Hawaii 50 years ago.
Her memories of an African-American baby at the maternity ward further corroborate the story.
{excerpted}
http://www.thelocal.se/33472/20110429/#.UQBKIHy9KSN


123 posted on 01/23/2013 1:26:46 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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