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To: Little Ray
If the French hadn’t intervened, we would have likely lost. Who are we going call in for assistance this time?

Who do we call? Our 90 million gun-owning friends and neighbors, that's who.

American gun owners comprise the largest armed force on the planet. We dwarf the American military, which comprises roughly 1.5 million active duty personnel.

And yes - if push came to shove, most of them would side with the people.

40 posted on 12/23/2012 3:51:57 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

It is good to know your enemy. There is much to learn from the Chinese Cultural revolution. Note that the police were not enforcers. They were isolated and restrained. The community organizer with devide at all levels. We have much in recent history to look at for example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution

On August 22, 1966, Mao issued a notice to stop “all police intervention in Red Guard tactics and actions.” Those in the police force who defied this notice were labeled “counter-revolutionaries.” Mao, drawing on his experiences from prior to 1949, suggested that “the sign of a true revolutionary was his desire to kill.” Mao’s praise for rebellion was effectively an endorsement for the actions of the Red Guards, which grew increasingly violent.[32] Public security in China deteriorated rapidly as a result of central officials lifting restraints on violent behavior.[33] Xie Fuzhi, the national police chief, said it was “no big deal” if Red Guards were beating “bad people” to death.[34]


44 posted on 12/23/2012 4:02:57 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: Windflier

It is good to know your enemy. There is much to learn from the Chinese Cultural revolution. Note that the police were not enforcers. They were isolated and restrained. The community organizer with devide at all levels. We have much in recent history to look at for example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution

On August 22, 1966, Mao issued a notice to stop “all police intervention in Red Guard tactics and actions.” Those in the police force who defied this notice were labeled “counter-revolutionaries.” Mao, drawing on his experiences from prior to 1949, suggested that “the sign of a true revolutionary was his desire to kill.” Mao’s praise for rebellion was effectively an endorsement for the actions of the Red Guards, which grew increasingly violent.[32] Public security in China deteriorated rapidly as a result of central officials lifting restraints on violent behavior.[33] Xie Fuzhi, the national police chief, said it was “no big deal” if Red Guards were beating “bad people” to death.[34]


45 posted on 12/23/2012 4:03:10 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: Windflier; Little Ray

I am 100% in like mind with this post.

But I think if we plan on protecting ourselves we need to be realistic about what we can expect.

Unless the commies slip up and move too fast they are going to get a lot of their goal by incrementalism. It’s worked for 40 years and it is still working. It helps having a completely compliant press working for them.

As far as the military (and the police and national guard) is concerned, “they” are methodically destroying the service from within at a very fast rate. That “most” would side with the people is still possible, but will not be for a lot longer.

Gun owners had better think long and hard, and be prepared to do what our founding fathers were willing to do. Are you willing to die? Because (IMO) it is going to come to that at some point.

I’m not being negative, or defeatist. It will come to that and we will have to demonstrate the incredible stoicism and character of our forefathers if we expect to have a chance.


49 posted on 12/23/2012 4:47:47 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Windflier
American gun owners comprise the largest armed force on the planet. We dwarf the American military, which comprises roughly 1.5 million active duty personnel.

Like I mentioned in another post ... while the liberals were teaching their kids to protest the military we were teaching ours to serve. Something to think about.

63 posted on 12/23/2012 7:43:01 PM PST by EagleInGA
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