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To: Strategerist

Romney’s vote count isn’t enough of an increase to account for the growth in population.

And it certainly isn’t enough considering that instead of having an unpopular GOP president and a crashing economy, Romney was running against Obama, who jammed Obamacare down our throats and presided over a continuing, disastrous economy.

Considering that at least some of those millions fewer who voted for Obama this time must have voted for his opponent, yes, regular base turnout was lower this time around.


2 posted on 11/21/2012 10:18:41 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Romney’s vote count isn’t enough of an increase to account for the growth in population.  Strategerist touched on this above.  He expects Romney's final totals to match McCain's plus an amount that would compenstate for an increased voter pool due to population expansion.

And it certainly isn’t enough considering that instead of having an unpopular GOP president and a crashing economy, Romney was running against Obama, who jammed Obamacare down our throats and presided over a continuing, disastrous economy.  I don't think anyone has been arguing the opposite of this.

Considering that at least some of those millions fewer who voted for Obama this time must have voted for his opponent, yes, regular base turnout was lower this time around.
  Color me unconvinced that anyone stupid enough to vote for Obama the first time is going to admit to themselves they were wrong, and vote for a Republican the next go-round.  They may stay home because they're unhappy, but not many of the Obama supporters were going to vote for an avowed unapologetic American supporting Capitalist, after voting for the U.S.S.R. like Marxist/Socialist/Communist/Islamic throwback poster child.

9 posted on 11/21/2012 10:29:38 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: 9YearLurker
Considering that at least some of those millions fewer who voted for Obama this time must have voted for his opponent, yes, regular base turnout was lower this time around.

Evangelicals voted in record numbers for Romney. He got more of their votes than McCain or Bush(2004). He got more white votes than McCain. The missing votes in 2012 were white Obama voters from 2008.

We should look at who they are, why they left Obama and why they didn't vote GOP.

11 posted on 11/21/2012 10:34:53 AM PST by Ken H
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To: 9YearLurker

what is still important in all this, in every type of 2008-2012 & Romney-McCain comparison is not the total national popular vote, but the state-by-state popular votes that gave Obama the Electoral college votes

that is the ONLY place - not the additional popular vote, where either judging Romney’s performance or learning anything else that is useful can come from

it is the only popular vote comparisons I have ANY interest in


28 posted on 11/21/2012 11:34:41 AM PST by Wuli
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To: 9YearLurker

I made a typo in earlier duplicate post

what is still important in all this, in every type of 2008-2012 & Romney-McCain comparison is not the total national popular vote, but the state-by-state popular votes that gave Obama the Electoral college votes

that is the ONLY place - not the national popular vote, where either judging Romney’s performance or learning anything else that is useful can come from

it is the only popular vote comparisons I have ANY interest in


29 posted on 11/21/2012 11:35:36 AM PST by Wuli
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