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“Fred, the fact is that your research has an historical context based on the way things happen, as reflected in documentation.”

link please to a single verifiable document (FOIA verifiable, for example) that Fred Nerks’ Mal-Val narrative is based on either refuting Stanley Ann as Barry’s mom or supporting a Filipina alternate wife in Seattle named Anna S. Obama or providing legally substantive confirmation that Valerie Sarruf is Barry’s mom and Malcolm X is his dad.

Verifiable circumstantial documentary proof establishes to a legal certainty that Stanley Ann is Barry’s mom. These documents are cross-corroborating in multiple instances to form a consistent narrative.

The so-called evidence that Stanley Ann is not Barry’s mom not only isn’t corroborated anywhere but doesn’t exist.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

Fred Nerks claims that Stanley Ann never completed HS in WA and never set foot in HI until she arrived to be Barry’s nanny and secret adoptive mother circa 1964 so he claims she never met BHO Sr.

Fred Nerks has declared all evidence in support of the following to be forged:

SAD graduated HS in WA
SAD went to HI in mid 1960
SAD was in Russian class at U of HI in fall 1960
SAD was reported made “hapa” by BHO by U of HI officials
SAD and BHO were married of Feb 2, 1961 reported by U of HI officials to INS confirmed in HI vital index and HI 1964 divorce
SAD and BHO were discussing putting baby up for adoption per INS docs
SAD intended to attend college in WA in fall of 1961 per INS docs
BHO named Ann S. Dunham as wife in August 1961 per Ins DOCs
SAD’s numerous friends say she arrived in WA in late Aug 1961
SAD confirmed living at home with parents at address in newspaper birth announcements
SAD’s U of WA transcript shows she attended fall 1961 and spring 1962 and confirm Toutonghi apartment as does Polk with “Anna S. Obama” tiny name variant.
SAD’s U of HI official state archive record picks up U of WA courses
SAD’s U of WA final two transcripts obtained by Corsi (microfilm of final hardcopy and computer printout dated Feb 2, 1009) confirms HS graduation, Russian credit in HI in fall 1960, 1961-62 attendance, U of HI bachelor and master degrees are noted typed in on lower right

Candor7 and All:

Apart from claims of forgery of ALL of the above verifiable (producible in court) archival documents, what POSITIVE documentary evidence or evidence of any kind is there to support:

1. Anna S. Obama being a Filipina wife of BHO who took her baby (the future Roman Obama currently of Ghana) to Seattle in January 1961 to be babysat by Mary Toutonghi at that time and be person recorded by Polk at the same address on Stanley Ann’s transcript a year later.

2. Roman Obama was born the son of BHO and Filipina wife Anna S. and take to Seattle, then spirited to Kenya by BHO to be raised there in Nairobi by him and Ruth Baker and appearing as the “dark boy” (actually verifiable to be Mark Ndesandjo) in the picture of Mark and David Obama.

3. Any verifiable evidence or witness testimony fro anyone that David Obama didn’t exist.

The list goes on...

You are doing the pretzel thing again, and you are being dishonest and know it:

SAD graduated HS in WA

And all you have to show that is an entry on a fraudulent document sent to WND by e-mail without provenance. There is nothing from any high School, nothing from Mercer Island other than 'classmate' stories that don't add up. There's a 'graduation' photo, cropped from a page of a book that could have come from anywhere.

SAD went to HI in mid 1960

Yes, she shows up in 1963 to enroll at the U of HI in Spring and then we see her photograph taken with a two year old.

SAD was in Russian class at U of HI in fall 1960

The student shown as Ann S Obama in the Polk may have been in a Russian class in the early sixties - taught by two Russian immigrant women - before the East West Centre was opened. Ann S Obama may have received credits for attending, but as no one saw Stanley Ann Dunham in Hawaii and the daughter of the Pratt family with whom the Dunhams shared the house doesn't remember a daughter with child, who that student listed in the directory might have been is unknown. There's a possibility Ann S Obama lived in the bungalow at the rear and her name appeared as the result of the connection of utilities in her name.

SAD was reported made “hapa” by BHO by U of HI officials SAD and BHO were married of Feb 2, 1961 reported by U of HI officials to INS confirmed in HI vital index and HI 1964 divorce SAD and BHO were discussing putting baby up for adoption per INS docs SAD intended to attend college in WA in fall of 1961 per INS docs BHO named Ann S. Dunham as wife in August 1961 per Ins DOCs SAD’s numerous friends say she arrived in WA in late Aug 1961 SAD confirmed living at home with parents at address in newspaper birth announcements SAD’s U of WA transcript shows she attended fall 1961 and spring 1962 and confirm Toutonghi apartment as does Polk with “Anna S. Obama” tiny name variant. SAD’s U of HI official state archive record picks up U of WA courses SAD’s U of WA final two transcripts obtained by Corsi (microfilm of final hardcopy and computer printout dated Feb 2, 1009) confirms HS graduation, Russian credit in HI in fall 1960, 1961-62 attendance, U of HI bachelor and master degrees are noted typed in on lower right

And I really can't be bothered going through all the rest, the myth of Stanley Ann as mother is the creation of the author, the events and identities in the lives of two women and records of two individuals have been skillfully woven into one - your Stanley Ann Dunham is a composite just as the birth certificate is a composite, created to suit the myth...and the only way you can retain your bullying tactics is to refuse to identify the boy on the left as zero and the slightly older, darker boy on the right as the son of the kenyan, because that allows you to drive home your own pet theory, that SAD was a slut who was 'easy' - who was sent to Kenya to have a child she conceived through a sexual relationship with a man 35 years older. You bring nothing new to the discussion, you never have, you aren't interested in anything other than telling us how clever you are. It's tiresome. And it's obvious you get all your oxygen from me, because without my input, you have nothing to say.

Here they are again:

These are the images that Mark showed on his webpage.

The composite of zero clearly shows who the boy on the left IS.

And the darker, older child is shown with his father and Ruth in Kenya in a photograph taken after Mark was born in 1965.

Real People. Deal in real people :-)

Yes, Malcolm X was Obama’s dad!/S

The fact is that we do not know anything about Obama’s parentage, whatever is public is fabricated, what ever is true has been obscured.

We can only know that he was handed around as an infant, an unwanted child, looking for a place to roost. What that child found at an early age prior to 1964,and how, no one really knows. We just have an arrangement of photographs that could not be covered up or censored. Those are real, in context, unlike documents which are so easy to duplicate and refile.

As a matter of fact, there have been cadres or teams of Oba-obscurators. An article purportedly written by Obama in college was cut from the library archives with a razor , there is no documentary evidence that has not been obscured or re-contextualized to support the fabrications of the false Obama family line, and the fictional biography so Obama could evolve into “The Won.”.

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cf Fred Nerks

I think the problem is that I deal in people, real flesh and blood human beings, I follow the tracks they leave as they move through their lives, tripping up, making mistakes, telling lies...and I collect photographs which ultimately fall into context almost all by themselves...I don’t take documents that have been created to cover who and what and where they might have been, as gospel. The paperwork is there to go with the myth, I don’t trust the validity of anything presented nowhere else but in cyberspace...

I look for the mistakes they made, the contradictions, the obvious lies, because that’s what real people do. They are as cunning as chimpanzees and about as trustworthy...except you and I of course...LOL!

And PS - a little humour goes a long way. I am most suspicious of those who do not have any.

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Yes Fred, your approach is more highly forensic and real.
We knw exactly what questions to have answered now and where the nexus points are that could reveal all if they could be inflated properly.

People who see that want you to just goand establsih a false reality created by lists of documents which may or may not have been altered or edited and refiled. I am not about to click my heels like Dorothy and conclude I must have been in Kansas.