[MHGinTN]

Here is a video from a man greatly respected in Evangelical ranks, Ravi Zacharias. Beginning at about minute five and following, he explains the current dilemma in having Obama and Romney as one of which will be the next president. You might find it instructional:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWLzHt8ImyE&feature=related

[aMorePerfectUnion]

I well know Ravi. I understand his point of view, but I disagree.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[betty boop]

"...when you're choosing between leaders, none of whom will give you the groundswell of the Christian faith on which [your] life is built...you have to go for a person who will help a nation provide the best moral soil on which the freedom to believe and disbelieve can actually function. It is on a moral soil that the freedom to believe actually works best, and Truth can ultimately triumph.

If you have an immoral soil created, then the Truth is evicted, and you're not even given the opportunity of voicing your ideas in the marketplace and in the public setting and in the arena.

The Christian faith ought to have a voice in the marketplace, it ought to have a voice in the academy, it ought to have a voice in politics, it ought to have a voice in business. And any leader that'll create the moral soil to make it possible for us to continue to proclaim that, that's the kind of leader we may have to ultimately work, no matter what tag they put on them on the outside.

If you're choosing between those for whom the Christ is not supreme in salvation, you have to choose one who will give you the best moral soil in order to allow you to live in Christ, and live out your faith. [quoted from around 5:35 forward in the teleplay]

I couldn't agree with Zacharias more.

And that definitely leaves Obama out of the picture: He is totally amoral. Worse, he's vicious towards all who disagree with him. He could care less about "good moral soil" in which religious freedom can flourish. "Life in Christ" is just a silly superstition to him. He hates Christianity because he knows that it is the foundation of the traditional America that he is deliberately trying to destroy.

Romney is theologically beyond the pale in the view of many Christians; but he has always conducted himself as a moral, upright person, certainly not one inclined to evict the views of Christians from the marketplace of ideas, or otherwise to punish them for what they believe.

Politics is the art of the possible: You have to do the best you can under the REAL CONDITIONS.

JMHO, FWIW

Thank you so much, dear brother in Christ, for posting this link!

[Elsie]

Well spoken; however, I did NOT start at minute five, as suggested, but wanting to hear the context, I played it from the beginning. But (you KNEW it was coming ;^) he still uses the same argument we've heard countless times "...if you are choosing between the two..." I did like the way he explained how the word CULT is used and how it should be used; generally at least. As a minor point; he did NOT say how MORMONism uses it. I could not see whether you pinged Jeff Head among the group you've attracted to this thread, for there were more names than fit on the screen; so I'll ping him so that he could hear Christianity's reply to MORMONism without the BAGGAGE that myself and others have drug into FR.