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Say Hello To "Four More Years" (Mittens-Ryan)
Market-ticker ^ | Aug. 11, 2012 | Karl Deninger

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:40:16 PM PDT by SatinDoll

There are a few hard, fast rules in politics when you're playing on the top of the ticket.

The first is that picking someone that's dumber than a box-o-rocks may cost you the election, as the electorate may think about your untimely demise and whether they can live with the other party in the left seat.

The second is that picking someone who's smarter than you are isn't that good of an idea either, because then the electorate may wonder if they made the wrong choice for the top of the ticket.

And the third is that picking someone who's hated more than you are sometimes works politically, especially if you've got a bunch of rabid people who hate you (and who doesn't at this level of political activity?); their fire may be drawn to the VP pick.

Of course that can backfire and cause your opponent to concentrate his fire on you both.

That appears to be headed Mittens way with Paul Ryan as his running mate.

The Republican presidential candidate called his new running mate a man of "steadiness" and "integrity." Speaking Saturday morning, Romney praised Ryan as an "intellectual leader" of the party, one who understands the toll the debt is taking on the country but is optimistic about the future.

Uh huh. That would be nice if it was true.

Unfortunately it's a lie.

And Ryan is one of the liars-in-chief in the House. If you need your memory refreshed may I recommend you read the following links:

here (discretionary budget, welfare reform, retirement security and more) here (voted for and supported TARP) here (Medicare, cost-shifting at gunpoint and more) here (more Medicare lies) here (Ryan's fraudulent -- for the second time -- budget proposal) and of course here (Ryan's lies about the sequester ex-post-facto creating exemptions to it)

and that's just the last year or so of my coverage of this venomous, traitorous snake.

The problem with Ryan is that he's not a "conservative" at all. Beyond the fiscal mess documented up above -- a mess he not only helped create but is promulgating and continuing, along with the explicit and implicit support of frauds up and down the line in our financial system via TARP and other schemes he also supports blatantly unconstitutional laws on top of it, including The Patriot Act, warrantless wiretaps, retroactive immunity for telecommunications firms that broke the law on warrant requirements and more.

This is a man who literally wakes up and looks for a tiny as-yet-unused corner of the Constitution with which to wipe his ass after the obligatory morning stop on the commode. Paired with Romney, who supported and signed a ban on guns that looked scary while governor of Massachusetts, to give Ryan the tie-breaking vote in the Senate is unthinkable.

This nation and her people need both a stick for our teeth and a good belt of whiskey, for indeed, given this "choice", here it comes.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012veep; denninger; gop; paulryan; romney; tarp; ticker
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Deninger, who wrote this piece, is a Libertarian for whom most Libertarians aren't "libertarian" enough. I don't expect him to like a 'statist' like Romney, but this was unexpected. He has written on Paul Ryan during the past year.

For the links to his articles as referred to in this piece, you will have to go to Market-ticker.org.

However, I am a firm believer voters should know exactly what they are voting for before filling out their ballots.

So, I do background checking on candidates and post it to Free Republic. This isn't always appreciated, as my research on Richard J. Santorum unearched a doozy.

Just so everyone knows, I will not and have not supported Obama.

Representative Paul Ryan is a Republican representative of a Democratic Party heavily-dominated region. One presumes he is as conservative as it is possible to be under that situation.

1 posted on 08/11/2012 4:40:26 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: SatinDoll

Here is the situation as I see it. Come November we will come to another fork in the road and we have a decision to make. Do we take the road to Greece with Obama/Biden or do we take the road to getting America back on its feet with Romney/Ryan. IMHO it is a pretty easy decision. Voting 3rd party or sitting home is the same as taking the road to Greece. It only helps the Obama/Biden ticket.


2 posted on 08/11/2012 4:44:57 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: SatinDoll

Opinions are like you-know-what, everybody’s got one.


3 posted on 08/11/2012 4:44:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SatinDoll
Solid on abortion. Solid on anti-"gay rights." Good enough on guns. Alarmingly weak on illegal immigration.

Could have been much, much worse. (Think "Chris Christie.")

4 posted on 08/11/2012 4:44:57 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: SatinDoll

I like Ryan! And I will vote for him.


5 posted on 08/11/2012 4:45:41 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita

America will vote anyway they can just to rid themselves of zer0.

It doesn’t matter who, just punch the other ticket. One and done.


6 posted on 08/11/2012 4:51:05 PM PDT by reefdiver (Shoeless John Roberts, An American Tragedy.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Parley Baer

If Obummer gets 4 more years we are doomed.

If Mitt/Ryan win and don’t do what’s necessary, we are doomed.

Since past performance is generaly a good predictor of future actions, Mitt & Ryan will probably not turn things around.

One thing I do know is that with BHO2 there is no hope but maybe, just maybe, Mitt/Ryan could change.

It’s all I can hope for at this point.

“IT’S THE SPENDING STUPID The US must become less a government of men, and more a government of LAW.
When people lose everything and have nothing left to lose they lose it.” -Gerald Celente ( He lost a fortune at IMF Global)


7 posted on 08/11/2012 4:53:38 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

My liberal tool former sister inlaw is all over Facebook touting this as political suicide. Funny stuff. I lean pretty libertarian myself but libertarians are the biggest impediment to their cause. Just as annoying as the communists.


8 posted on 08/11/2012 4:54:43 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: SatinDoll
The Patriot Act, warrantless wiretaps, retroactive immunity for telecommunications firms that broke the law on warrant requirements and more.

How is the Patriot Act unconstitutional. And how is it wrong either legally or morally to wiretap conversations foreign enemies we are at war with are having with associates located within the United States?

9 posted on 08/11/2012 4:57:00 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Parley Baer
Do we take the road to Greece with Obama/Biden or do we take the road to getting America back on its feet with Romney/Ryan

What is your evidence for them "getting America back on its feet"?

10 posted on 08/11/2012 4:58:07 PM PDT by SwankyC
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To: riri

I don’t think it is political suicide.

But after researching both men, I have to tell you, there isn’t a lot of hope on my part that they will turn our economy around and shrink government spending.


11 posted on 08/11/2012 5:00:54 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

How many winning presidential elections has Karl Deninger masterminded? How many successful runs for county dog catcher or city council, for that matter?


12 posted on 08/11/2012 5:02:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: SatinDoll
".... just maybe, Mitt/Ryan could change."

My belief that Mitt will try to do what needs to be done has gone up 100% with his VP choice. I just hope he gets the chance with that choice. He probably would have been a shoe in with Rubio.

13 posted on 08/11/2012 5:04:38 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: SwankyC

“One thing I do know is that with BHO2 there is no hope but maybe, just maybe, Mitt/Ryan could change.”

Quoted from the lady above. Actually I think Romney is on the right track by approving the Keystone pipeline and allowing other energy production to proceed.


14 posted on 08/11/2012 5:05:04 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: SatinDoll
As a Liberal tarian I can see this guy writing this. Of course the polls mean nothing when you are trying to destroy America but someone should sit this drooling half wit down and explain that if there was the smallest chance Obam was winning there would be no need to over poll Democrats. The Ryan pick has just expanded the enthusiasm gap by a + 2 for Ryan and a - 2 for Dumbo. Live with it geniuses.
15 posted on 08/11/2012 5:05:17 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: vbmoneyspender
And how is it wrong either legally or morally to wiretap conversations foreign enemies we are at war with are having with associates located within the United States?

Who gets to define who is and who isn't a foreign operative? How do they do it? And how accurate would their ability to decide this, be? As long as these three points continue to remain hazy, the average American citizen lost quite a bit of freedom to that act.

16 posted on 08/11/2012 5:06:52 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Parley Baer

OMG, Did you really just give me ‘hope and change’ for a Romney presidency?


17 posted on 08/11/2012 5:09:43 PM PDT by SwankyC
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To: SatinDoll

I’m waiting for 2016. I kind of like Ryan but to elect Romney will kill Conservatism. We can hold Obama in check for 4 more years. We can’t stop the dismantling of Conservatism if Romney is elected. I will never, ever vote Obama, but not a thing Romney can do to get my vote.


18 posted on 08/11/2012 5:10:52 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: vbmoneyspender

“How is the Patriot Act unconstitutional. And how is it wrong either legally or morally to wiretap conversations foreign enemies we are at war with are having with associates located within the United States?”

First off, if you want to know about the unconstitutionality of The Patriot Act, I suggest you do research. You shouldn’t take my word for it.

Secondly, I used to work for the Navy Security Group (think NSA wearing a Naval uniform) when it was illegal to listen into private conversations of U.S. citizens. It was legal to intercept the radio communications of foreigners, but not U.S. citizens. Now it is legal.

My opinion was, if you’re not doing something illegal or treasonous, why worry? Now, under BHO2, a person can be arrested just for expressing an oppositional opinion in his audience! BHO2 abuses power and targets his political opponents. This is called tyranny.


19 posted on 08/11/2012 5:11:57 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Denninger is a blowhard. He even voted for Obama! And he has the audacity to complain that Romney and Ryan aren’t conservative enough?!

To boot, he’s delusional. He actually thinks that Gary Johnson can win the election.

Denninger should stick to economic issues. When he veers into politics, he’s way out of his league.


20 posted on 08/11/2012 5:13:04 PM PDT by randita (Either the politicians fix our fiscal insanity, or the markets will.)
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