Posted on 07/27/2012 9:26:47 AM PDT by chatter4
On July 17, 2012, Mike Zullo, the lead investigator for the MCSO Cold Case Posse, presented false information to the American people, claiming that the "9" code next to Obama's father's race meant that the field was blank when it was coded. That information appears to have come from Jerome Corsi, and was presented in a video produced by Mark Gillar. It was claimed a chart presented in that video was copied from a 1961 Vital Statistics Manual, but, it came from a 1968 manual. In 1961, code "9" meant "other nonwhite".
Yes. I’ve worked in Data Systems for over 25 years. In my industry, anyone who claimed a signature in a file isn’t information would be a figure of ridicule.
“Take a closer look at the Code Manual. It states the codes are to be “punched”, it does not say they are to be penciled in on the form. In 1961 there was such a thing as a punch card. Go figure.”
Yes, Birth Certificates were coded in each State, and then that information was passed on to the Federal Government, which entered the data on punch cards that were then fed into a computer and the data was saved on tapes. Punch cards were made of manila stock and small holes were punched in them to record data. Google Univac computers.
“1. What was the code for no answer provided?”
There was no code for that in 1961.
“2. What happened in the case where the parent(s) couldn’t provide an answer?”
What parent would not know his own race?
“If one were to assume that Sr. was “self” identified as “African”:
1. Would the code have really been “other nonwhite?” to describe a Black who was from Africa?”
Yes, the code would have been 9 other nonwhite.
“What, then would be the code to describe an “African” who was white?”
What white person would list his race as African?
“2. Would the document have been coded to indicate Black or Negro (or similar terminology from the period)?”
According to the instructions in the manual such a person would have been coded as 2 only if his birth place was within the United States. Persons claiming to be black that were born outside of the United States were coded as 9 other nonwhite.
IOW, you have nothing to dispute my comment except for an irrelevant personal claim. Thanks for conceding the point.
“The birth certificate Obama presented to the American people is altered. Originally it was on blue paper then turned to green security paper? How did THAT happen? Constructed in Adobe Illustrator or Photoshop then printed out, IMPRINTED WITH A ‘SEAL’ THAT IS TOO SMALL AND NOT THE SIZE HAWAII USED, then photographed by Savannah Guthrie so we’d all think it was real?”
The photo taken by Savannah Guthrie proves that Obama’s Birth Certificate was altered. In box 7c it lists Obama’s birthplace as “Honolulu, Huwaii”. Yes, it actually says, “Huwaii”. That fact was passed on to the MCSO, Jerome Corsi and many others, and it was ignored. Can you imagine what those doubting reporters would said if Mike Zullo had put that photo up on the screen? They would have been speechless. Instead of doing that, they allowed themselves to be duped by Corsi’s bogus claim about the vital statistic code 9.
Whereas yours was such a cogently argued and well supported statement:
“Because a signature is NOT information. Do you even think about such a question before you ask it??”
LOL.
“Unfortunately this doesn’t hold up as true....”
My responses were based on what was stated the Instruction Manual. A Foreign Born population chart has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Are you now claiming that Barack Obama Sr. was not born in Kenya? His race was listed as African on the document and those instructions said,”If the racial entry is “C,” “Col.,” “Black,” “Brown,” or “A.A.,” “Afro-American,” and the birthplace is the United States, consider the parents race as Negro. If birthplace of parent is not in the United States, code as other nonwhite.” Now you can argue to your hearts content, but, I didn’t write the manual, nor did I code the document. I’d say that coding the entry African as 9 other nonwhite was close enough for government work. It really would not matter that much in the end, one way or the other.
You’re not understanding. I’m syaing I don’t believe that instruction manual is authentic because it’s asking for race to be classified according to the birthplace of the individual, which does NOT jibe with the way the census classified races. I’m saying that Barack Sr. should have been coded as Negro because the Federal classification of race recognized persons as Negroes even when they were NOT born in the United States.
Guys and Gals, You have a document that was forged. Obama’s long form BC posted on the White House website is forged. The number 9 does not get you out of that fact. It is a digital file not a scanned photocopy. That fact alone proves forgery. Obama waivered and lost. He asked the Hawaii DOH for a WAIVER in order to get a PHOTOCOPY of his original 1961 BC. A PHOTOCOPY is NOT a DIGITAL file. Say that. A photocopy is not a digital file. All other details about the forgery are interesting but go beyond the proof needed to prove it is fraudulent. Like the alleged “signature” of Obama’s mother on the forged document going from ink pixels to a non-ink computer created “signature”. A signature on a 1961 document can not be a compilation of ink and computer created non-ink. Pixels don’t lie. People do.
Okay, thanks for that idea. So the little bit of the page on the left might be the right edge of another page that is connected to the BC we are presented with? And those codes don’t correspond to the hospital fields, but to other fields on the left hand page? Wouldn’t the hospital info and residence of mother need to be coded though? There is a list of codes for the hospital birth section detailed in the code book page I posted above (and they say this isn’t rocket science!). Hmmm....
The information for coding on page 14 is not for the hand coding on the form, but coding for a field on the magnetic record. If you look at it, they are taking information from two fields on the form - 6c and 19a ( examine the information given for the hospital and the certification of the attendant )and determining from the combination of those two fields what is to be coded on the field in the magnetic record. So in the case of this particular code, it is not a coding for field 6c or 19a
“Guys and Gals, You have a document that was forged. Obama’s long form BC posted on the White House website is forged. The number 9 does not get you out of that fact.”
It was clearly stated in the video that Obama’s Birth Certificate is a forgery. That was proved the day it was released. That doesn’t give anyone, including the Cold Case Posse, the right to manufacture false evidence.
As I stated before, there is an entire page of statistics that we cannot see, just to the left of the Birth Certificate. The numbers you are talking about are on that page. Until we can see that page, and it is doubtful we ever will, there is no way of knowing what those numbers mean. The numbers are not in the boxes you are trying to link them to.
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